American health care system will be more socialist because of Obama

Discussion in 'Socialism' started by Anaximenes, Feb 8, 2014.

  1. thedope

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    Love is the material choice, a particular horizon it's selection.
     
  2. RandomVegan

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    you are Canadian - Canada has more social programs than where I am but it is NOT socialist

    "Socialism is a political term applied to an economic system in which property is held in common and not individually, and relationships are governed by a political hierarchy. Common ownership doesn't mean decisions are made collectively, however. Instead, individuals in positions of authority make decisions in the name of the collective group. Regardless of the picture painted of socialism by its proponents, it ultimately removes group decision making in favor of the choices of one all-important individual. "

    http://usconservatives.about.com/od/glossaryterms/g/Socialism.htm

    you are just another corporatist system where a few more things are being taken care of.
     
  3. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    You're right. The balanced budget works with the health care system working. They say. Boom or bust? Can the car industry bust instead of the health industry? Used to be that way in the sixties.:smilielol5:
     
  4. scratcho

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    Obamacare is not socialism by any stretch. It's forced capitalism. It enriches the "take some off the top and pass the remains on" insurance companies. Socialist medical programs only exist in countries without the undue influence of Ayn Rand devotees. You know--civilized countries that actually give a shit about their citizens.
     
  5. Anaximenes

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    But Obamacare is pres. Obama's care. He wishes the will from health to be effective for the majority of the people to be physically balanced for life in the midst of the natural world. He means it becsuse he wants to invite the difficulty really as it is required for profitable business's which are there by the commonwealth of the Nation.
     
  6. scratcho

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    Yeah--right. ?
     
  7. RandomVegan

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    (reading your posts is like parsing code)

    the ACA is NOT Obama's, it was written by the Republicans he merely backed it since single payer is not going to be an option in this "Capitalists Wet-Dream" of a nation.

    there is no "Commonwealth of nations" even the UN has pretty much no power and Obama is run by corporations, not world government.
     
  8. themnax

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    i for one, devoutly wish, but in no way expect, any such thing as the title of this thread, to be the case.
     
  9. Fjola

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    rather than taking the piss out of the guy for his use of english, maybe you ought to have been prepared to work that much harder to understand his message, the answer to which is....yes obamas health care suggestions are a good thing...period, i mean come on, the rest of the world got here ages ago, like gun control or rhythmic breathing it isn't (to use an old cliche) rocket science - it's a nation taking care of ordinary people rather than the pampered elite - which is usually the case!
     
  10. themnax

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    needs to happen. almost the exact opposite has though.

    ah but this does get to what i was going to say about socialism more generally.
    every ideology is a form of mushroom farming.
    and i think we all know what mushroom farming is,
    that's where you keep people in the dark and feed them shit.
    now the thing about socialism isn't that its a complete exception,
    though it ought to be pretty obvious that capitalism damd sure isn't;
    what socialism has going for it, is that every time anyone tries to inject a little logic into politics,
    socialism is what they end up getting accused of.

    which makes it something, i think everyone who favors logic, consideration, honesty, responsibility, any of those things, can wear proudly.
     
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    Every time I feel the urge to smoke, I'm coming here to read your posts. I swear I am high right now.
     

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