Alright everyone I need some advice...

Discussion in 'Magic Mushrooms' started by soldier137, Jan 6, 2012.

  1. soldier137

    soldier137 Guest

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    So the situation is I have never done shrooms before and want to try them. I use to take painkillers mainly now and then and alot of weed and 2cb once so ive never really done anything with a trip like shrooms. I met someone who can get them and is going to get 1 gram for me, as ive seen that alot as a recomended first dose. I need all the advice i can get for a first time trip, I know i wont ever do them after this time, I just have always wanted to try them. I have two friends that will be present and sober for safety.
    Any advice is welcome and needed!
     
  2. soldier137

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    oh yeah and ive done exctasy.
     
  3. iamtigerpaw

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    the only advice i can give, is just to always remember (while your tripping) that everything is all just an effect of the drug, nothing less, nothing more. Use the shrooms to learn, about yourself, about the world, and your mind. peace, & i wish you a terrific trip!
     
  4. guerillabedlam

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    1 gram is a low dose, highly unlikely that will produce a trip beyond 2cb if they are standard psilocybin cubensis. I'd reccommend to be in a comfortable setting and ask for at least 2 grams if you plan on doing it just once. I did 3.5 grams my first time and found it a powerful and worthwhile trip.
     
  5. Doobieismyname

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    Materials:
    Shroomies, a little tree, a pot for boiling, and some vitamin C (EmergenC works great)

    Dont eat that shit, I know everyone tries them and they arent THAT bad but coming from experience, Ive picked my own and trust me after seeing all the creepy crawlers still running around tripping face on my shroomies, id rather make shroom tea. The trick is not boiling to much water. Only put in however much you are willing to drink ( a little more to take in account the steam realesed at boiling) as it will taste like absolute shit. Wait until the water starts to boil and throw your shroomies in there. Let them boil for at least 15 minutes. I then use a stainer to strain the rest of the juices (psyilisibin) from the shroomes. You dont want to just press them hard, you want to actually pick them up with your hands and squeeze the ever living shit out of the little shroomies and if they killed your dog until the black death juices (extremely potent psyilisibin) comes dripping out. And believe me, you will know, there is a huge different in color. After you squeezed every last possible drop of death juice, pour your own choice of a vitamin c drink, stir it all around real good and observe its nastinest. Now drink it while its hot! Chug it even! Ive never drank it cold but i made shroom tea for a buddy once and he tookit hours after i made it, once it had cooled and said he felt nothing. I on the other hang have taken it fresh and hot everytime and tripped at least twice as hard as i would have had i just eaten them alltogether. Just a tad bit of infor, maybe a little more than you were looking for hahah enjoy your trip!
     
  6. PurpByThePound

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    ^Don't do that
     
  7. Grainpsilo

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    I wouldn't take mushroom advice from someone that can't spell psilocybin. That black death juice is your psilocybin oxidizing and becoming useless.


    I would recommend you take at least 2 grams. One gram really isn't enough to really feel much of anything.

    Fast for at least 6 hours before you take them and grind/chew them up really good when you eat them.
     
  8. Doobieismyname

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    Sorry that I cant spell. Didnt think you had to get an a in english to be a part of this forum. And i wouldnt take mushroom advice from someone who doesnt know what the fuck they are talking about. Funny you say the "black death juice" which is what i call the good psilocyben (did i spell that right for you) is oxidizing and becoming useless cause ive actually tripped much much harder on any tea, which ive taken mutliple times, than i ever have just eating then. And if you drink it right away while its hot, like i said, the tea isnt going to be usless.

    Why dont you people try and be a little open minded and not living in your little box of experience. Dont doubt someone who has lived it. You cant tell a mushroom head he didnt trip off his own tea that made his loose his mind. Seriously, why dont yall try and be a little supportive of new ideas. Maybe the reason you heard all that bullshit about shroom tea being useless is because you havent tried it. Hah

    Get an 8th, boil that shit and then come talk to me.

    Fucking assholes man, you try and help someone out and you get all the people like "oh this guy doesnt know what hes talking about cause he cant spell" hah yeah cause spelling the english shitty language is everything.

    Well i tried soilder, there is my advice from experience. Take it or leave it
     
  9. PurpByThePound

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    psilocybin is destroyed by heat - throwing some mushrooms into boiling water is not how to make tea.

    You're right, doobie - you tried to give your advice, good job. From now on though, try not to give your advice where you have little knowledge about the subject.

    1 gram is cool - 2 would be more of a trip though
    with 1 gram, I can still function - talk to people I need to do business with and socialize at parties. But things do and can get weird. People may notice you talking funny, running on an idea or distracted by something insignificant

    2 that feeling will be more pronounced and you will probably have some visual bending


    I think people who say 1 is a waste or not worth it are a little extreme in my books. 1 gram is more subtle, yes - but is still an interesting way to experience psilocybin and mushrooms. if you paint, play an instrument or anything fun and creative - 1 would be a huge inspiration boost, I am sure
     
  10. Doobieismyname

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    Once again, for the third time. I have much more knowledge in fact on this subject than most. I see your point and im not trying to argue BUT I HAVE TRIPPED ON SHROOM TEA. So how can you tell me that i did it wrong haha its bullshit. Ive done it about 5, 6 times now and ive tripped at least 50 altogether. So i think id know if i was tripping.

    Like i said before and i will say again. My buddy drank the tea hours after i made it and said he felt nothing. That is beyond me, maybe has something to do with the oxidizing process or whatever the fuck you guys or talking about. But when you pinch the shrooms and they turn blue, that is because of the reaction from psilocyben to oxygen, (that is the process of oxidizing)
    that is how you know that they are the right kind of shrooms and contain psilocyben

    So if oxygen really, does what you think it does then that would mean pinching then would have an equal effect.

    Once again, not trying to argue, just backing up a point that i have seen and LIVED. I know from experience

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/magic-mushroom3.htm

    check this article out or just do a search if you dont believe me

    Or i got another idea, all you guys could quick doubting my method and try it yourself! How about that one, who knows maybe you will actually trip a lot harder than you think.

    As for soldier, im sure by now you dont know what the fuck to think, so if you ever get the chance again, try it yourself, and lemme know what you think.

    By the way its a lot of more going out and picking them for free as opposed to buying them! Give you more to trip on and experiment with, hence why i even tried to tea in the first place.

    People really need to quit spreading myths about psychedelics hah

    Next im gonna hear that acid makes your brain bleed or drains your spinal fluid which is equally bullshit.

    Once again im not trying to downplay anyone, im just sharing the experiences and knowledge i have with others so that they can experience such beautiful things as i have
     
  11. PurpByThePound

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    I'm not gonna try your method ever, because I don't feel like wasting fungi - sorry.

    And I would advise you to not eat foraged mushrooms - let alone encourage others to do so.
    As another poster said - you can not even spell psilocybin, I doubt you have the necessary knowledge to identify mushrooms.

    Not raggin on you, you just can't go around spreading misinformation - especially about a subject that could get somebody killed.

    (Also, your link says nothing about boiling mushrooms to get a greater effect)
     
  12. Doobieismyname

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    Hah ok bro. You do you. Im going to do me. My experiences are good enough for me. You go on "not wasting your fungi"
    As for spelling, WHO THE FUCK CARES
    im typing fast cause im getting pissed often.
    PEOPLE DONT FUCKING LISTEN. OPEN YOUR FUCKING MIND and give something new a try. Quit thinking you have all the answers. There are other people who have knowledge in the field of mushrooms and yes, i have probably picked my mushrooms then youve taken. I think it can identify a couple fieldys. But thanks for trying to rag on me, we need more ignorant people like you that refuse to try new things or accept new ideas. Im done with this thread hah
     
  13. PurpByThePound

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    People shouldn't listen to you.
     
  14. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    Zactly.

    Any page that gives this advice should be disregarded all together...

    That is horrible advice, IME.
     
  15. Doobieismyname

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    Ah, alas, a reasonable, level headed thinker. I dont meet to many of those these days.

    So tell me, have you ever tried shroom tea?
     
  16. PurpByThePound

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    Did you eat lead paint chips as a child?
     
  17. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    No, heat destroys the psycho-active properties of mushrooms.

    Your "how stuff works" link is filled with inaccuracies and bad advice. How is it you agree with me when I disagree with your post?
    And look up 'alas'
    It's your opinion, trip and have fun dude.
     
  18. Doobieismyname

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    Ah i must have read it incorrectly. I thought you were supporting me haha

    Oh well fuck it

    Ill keep trippin on my tea

    You guys just eat em
     
  19. PurpByThePound

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  20. Grainpsilo

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    There are two primary chemicals in most "magic mushrooms". The first being Psilocin and the other being Psilocybin. Psilocin is the chemical that makes you trip while Psilocybin is the phosphoric acid ester of psilocin and is not active in this form. Upon ingestion your liver dephosphorylates it (removes the phosphoric group) and coverts it into psilocin. ( this is why the termspsilocybin and psilocin are sometimes used interchangeably)

    The phosphoric acid ester attached to psilocybin is considered "dead weight" and does not contribute to the compound's psychedelic effects. Its presence does, however, stabilize the compound. Conversely, psilocin, which lacks this phosphoric radical, is extremely unstable and sensitive to oxidation (particularly in the presence of heat and light) which degrades it and renders it useless.

    So when you boil your mushrooms you are destroying most of your psilocin (why your tea goes black) while your psilocybin is stable enough to not degrade right away. This is why you are able to drink your black death juice and still "trip" but your friend can drink the same liquid a little while later and feel nothing.

    When psilocin is degraded by oxidation it produces that familiar bluish tint so when you pinch your mushrooms you are destroying a percentage of your psilocin. This is usually find as long as you are gentle and don't over do it. But the bluing reaction is not always the best indicator of a active species. There are several species (for example the famous and very potent liberty cap (Psilocybe Semilanceata) that contain very little psilocin but contain psilocybin. These species usually either don't turn blue at all, stain only slightly blue or only turn blue after several minutes/hours.


    We quick doubt it because we see the logical errors in it and from past experience.

    Not everyone lives in areas where they can go out and pick them in the wild. It is best to grow them.

    I agree... perhaps you should practice what you preach.
     
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