So tell me what your experience is of these people or just your opinions on the matter. Those who abuse alcohol tend to ruin every other fuckers life around them as well as their own. Bear it in mind ... always. .
I keep one token drunk around so I'm not accused of being prejudiced against em. Either way it sucks...if ya keep em around ya watch them slowly die, with intermittent annoyances of them peeing half naked in the middle of the neighbors yard at 3 in the afternoon while yelling loudly about how someone was bad in bed, calls from the police station to pick them up, the violence, the falling over, the bleeding skulls, etc.. On the other hand they're still human and come with most of the qualities of such before they reach the 4th drink of the day.
Alcohol is a drug, the only difference between alcohol and other drugs is that it's a lot more socially acceptable. People who are addicted to drugs tend to jump between one drug and another and also alchohol. Many alcoholics who have never taken an illegal drug tend to abuse tranquilisers/barbs when they can't get any booze. If you've got an addictive personality then you will get addicted to any substance, if you haven't then you'll be able to enjoy them without ever having a craving and without it ever getting in the way of your life. The nature of the beast is that most people don't realise they've got addiction problems until after they've hurt a lot of people in their quest to get wrecked.
alcohol has been the source of almost every horrible thing that has happened in my little life...well a combination of alcohol and my lack of self control... but anyway, my expereince of alcoholics...i know a few, some better than others, from the homeless shelter and my expereince of them has been of true wonderment at what beautifully amazing people they are..which makes their addiction so terribly saddening. such a dependancy on anything is scary, but alcohol is so damning..its so easy to get hold of, alot of it tastes pretty good and as paul said, its socially acceptable. my expereince so far has been that the alcholohl is always to fill a gap in a persons broken life...to either provide comfort or to numb the senses and run away from the real world...its crushing and so upsetting...so many peoples lives are being ruined by a substance that can be bought in any supermarket. in the alcoholics i have known and met i hav seen a deep sadness in their being, a longin for a different life...well, apart from noe guy who was the happiest man ever! haa...but he was so used to his way of life he never dreamt of anythin different,....
I first went into treatment at 19. It was the old 'big book' 12 step programme and I spent years drinking away my guilt. I dont go to AA or NA anymore and my drinking is far more managable....or am I in denial? There's that guilt shit again....
I don't really know any alcoholics... but I have known and still do know some people that take way too many drugs in my opinion... they scare me. There's a big difference between recreational drinking / drug taking and people who are addicted. People who are addicted tend to get very nasty and irrational in my opinion, violent sometimes too Love Clairexxx
I used to be a junkie, I still go to NA/AA and have done for 17 years, I know what it did to me. I can't get away with it but if anyone can then who am I to judge?
Thank you. Saying that though my life has so little to do with my old ways that I don't reallly go so much now. I agree though that its very easy to develop a "my way or the by way" attitude when you surround yourself with the 12 steps day in and day out. Not always a healthy option.
Alcoholics are not the ones who have to cope with the results of this addiction but those who live with them whose life is intolerable ... All resasoning goes out the woindow to be replaced by aggression, deceict and manipulation in most cases. WHen not drunk invaribly the mind is on drink. If that person is having their drinking regulated then expect lies from every direction in order to get around that restriction. Bottles turn up hidden in the most unlikely places and it doesnt take long before friends begin to be lost isolating the alcogolic and their partner .. This then makes is even toiuogher on the person who lives with an alcoholic as you know its an illness so you dont want to kick them into touch yet at the same time its impossible to continue a relationship under the circumstances. Kids etc then get dragged into it and holy fucking christ its all a mess at that point. The only way the problem can be addressed is for the person to say .. yes I have a problem and I need to address it .. if this doesnt happen then nothing will ever change .. i have one on each side of my family. Watching people and families break down because of alcohol and knowing that you cant do anything really fucks your head. anyway .. i may ramble some more later if thats ok with you lot
i am a alcoholic/addict, but im recovering. i grew up in a alcoholic home too. it sucked. i belive its a disease. the only was i stoped was through NA i havent touched any drugs or alcohol , it will be 6 years on the 24th of this month.
well i am so sorry .. though your comment was flippant to say the least on a serious subject dude .. i am under a little bit of stress here as you may gather .. we just spoke and its all ok and as you say .. yes .. this problem is in my family .. its tearing it all aprt and i am in the middle not really coping too well and fuck it is making me uptight .. and thohse who know me .. am i usually uptight? ... shit .. i guess i just need someone to talk at just now peace dude
It wasn't flippant... in the context of your hypothetical post on a serious subject, it was me adding my experience of this subject. I get extremely drunk every day which makes me very ill and I can't stop doing it. Nobody depends on me, and I have very few responsibilities so it's just my own life I'm fucking up. Sorry to hear about the problems in your family. I'm glad we sorted out the misunderstanding.
