alcoholism

does LSD effect this? It's a mental disorder (I hope I'm not using incorrect terminology by saying its a disorder) Could it possibly somehow trigger the alcoholism?

 

Well alcoholism is much more gene linked than it is an underlying mental issue. If alcohol isn't a problem for you now then you're simply not an alcoholic and tripping isn't going to change that, if anything I would imagine that LSD could in fact have the opposite affect on an alcoholic and possibly help them overcome that particular addiction.

 

Well that is certainly good news!

Other than that why does alcohol ruin/destroy relationships unlike the use of cannibis.
I've never heard of a guy coming home on a Friday from a hard week at work, smoking a couple of joints then beating his wife to death.
Alcohol on the other hand....?

 

Nope.

"The Captain" Helped "Bill W" get off alcohol and create the AA precepts if you will, with...LSD.

It cures alcoholism.

http://www.dosenation.com/listing.php?smlid=4189

The Captain Al Hubbard

 

Cannabis will destroy relationships as well, it all depends on the situation though.

 

LSD does not "cure alcoholism"..

i was a alcoholic (i suppose technically still am although ive been sober for 2 years ) for over 20 years and during that time dosed no less than 200 times. total in my life at least a 1000 times.
what "cures alcoholism" is the desire to change your life. nothing more.

 

How can you "was" be an alcoholic? You "are" and always will be silly!

then "Bill W" was fked up in the head. :cheers2:

 

Marijuana causes you to relax, kick back, and take it easy. Things are funny, more entertaining, and you may even get the munchies. Alcohol acts much differently, and in certain people causes bursts of rage; rage which is often taken out on undeserving bystanders such as a wife or kids.

True, although the right psychedelic experience has great potential to initiate the desire for such a change. Therefore, indirectly, lsd and other psychedelic drugs have the potential to help make one become aware that they may want to overcome something like alcoholism. Or perhaps they were already aware that they needed to change but weren't quite ready to take the first step; lsd could cause the inspiration to take that first step. Correct me if I'm wrong, your obviously more experienced in this specific area.

 

ive known i was going to be a alcoholic since i first tried it when i was in 8th grade and i had no idea what i was doing, simply because of how much i love it....but id say if anything lsd would stop the alcoholism unless you like to be buzzed beforehand which iam going to try next time i trip

 

Alcoholism is really bad. My grandpa really fucked his life up with it.

But I could really see LSD helping to keep one sober, but only if one truly desires to be sober with his/her heart and mind.

But I doubt it would make it worse. Unless you want it to be worse...

 

lol,yeah i know,i put that in there. its just i really have no desire to drink anymore. there is a long story behind that that id rather not get into here.
anyway,because i dont think about it its hard to put myself in that catagory even though i know i am..

i dont buy that shit. thats no different than a shrink tellin ya prescription meds will cure you or help control your issues,which i dont buy either but thats a essay in itself..

i am a firm believer in self control and personal responsibility. i personally feel that if someone claims that, they are weak minded and using the substance as a crutch..

that being said,obviously from the amount of people on psych meds there are a lot of weak minded people in this world who dont grasp that change comes from within and no amount or kind of drug will manifest that.

i think its a slapping yourself in the face to give a drug credit for you taking the personal responsibility and self commitment to change your life.

not trying to start a big debate or tear anyone down here,just givin ya my two ameros worth..

 

but a combonation of both can have more of an effect.
If youre willing, but your willpower is too weak, maybe lsd can really give you slap in the face and say, "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING TO YOURSELF?"

 

:cheers2:

 

There is a difference between psychedelic drugs and prescription meds. Prescription meds alter a person's brain chemistry to achieve a desired effect (often with some negative side effects), for the duration of given drugs use. I would agree that some people are far too quick to jump on the bandwagon of taking anti-depressants, etc. but some people really do need it for biological reasons outside of their control.

Lsd isn't something that's meant to be taken on a daily basis like said prescription meds; it's a drug that should be taken on occasion with the intent to take something from the experience. If that means realizing just how badly you really need and want to overcome a disease that's slowly killing you and those around you, than I think that's an awesome opportunity. It's one that's not much different than traveling to the cardiac ward of a hospital, seeing all the people that are dieing from heart disease due to obesity and then deciding to make healthier choices in your own life to avoid such a fate yourself. That's a change in mindset that took place because of an experience, the only difference between that and a psychedelic drug experience is that with the later your exploring your mind and don't physically have to go anywhere.

One could just as easily say that refusing to take help is the real sign of weak mindedness. Not saying this is your case, I don't know you well enough to make such a claim, but it seems like such a mindset would have to be laced in insecurity. I'm not saying that you should give someone or something else all the credit for overcoming a disease like alchoholism, but taking help is never a sign of weakness. I would say that an attitude like that is much more "weak minded". Just out of curiosity, would you say that going through rehab to overcome alcoholism is also weak minded?

 

how come forum newbies are soo smart??

 

probably cause they're out DOIN it and we're just TALKIN about doin it

 

it's always 'us and them'.

 

yea, but the difference is that psych meds and such are habitual. lsd is in the recreational use catigory, even though it is more of a... well psychedelic use type thing.

drugs change the exterior, without adressing the interior. psychedelics effect the interior and are a catalyst for your life. once i completetly lost my pot addiction after an acid trip. so yes when you do something it is because you gained the willpower to do it, but lsd might have just given you a little push out the door.

 

yeah..like it temporarily disconnects the other addictions from us, it's just up to you to use it to change..if you want to.

 

Drugs and alcohol are easy to quit...I've done it thousands of times!