http://news.uk.msn.com/Article.aspx?cp-documentid=9009624 Curfew for children in Redruth, y'know that trouble hotspot. Should it be expanded across the country ?
I agree that it should be expanded. Kids these days hang about the streets getting into trouble and getting in trouble. It is horrific to realise that so many parents don't mind their eight year old to wander the streets like till ten pm.
But it did mention that under ten year olds be in by eight. So clearly there are issues in relation to kids under ten, eight year olds if you will, being on the streets after eight o clock. Any curfew is dissappointing really. It simply means that some parents can't even lay down the rules. So the law has to intervene with such drastic measures.
I reckon the ten and even eight year olds are not really a problem, the school age teenagers might be a different story though.
Taking away a personal freedom whilst the children sit indoors and fester with resentment without miraculously turning into different children perhaps? Theres anti social behavior for REASONS, and these reasons need to be addressed. A temporary curfew as part of that process i could understand, but a curfew alone will do absolutely zero And many children are perfectly fine and normal. Theyre not allowed to be outside their house at certain times? (This doesnt state whether being accompanied makes a difference) Sounds a bit like a prison system There could be any number of reasons why children would be out in the evening that dont involve crime Im not keen As J0hn said parents, carers, teachers etc should be raising these kids better and being better people themselves. Until this happens, there wont be a change. The law has no place coming into it in such a way. Being able to be outside your house is such a basic right its a bit worrying. Kids, parents, or kids with parents. Whatever
Also, istill get ID'd for lottery tickets sometimes! Would that mean id be being stopped by the police every 5 minutes if i just fancied an evening walk? I know what theyre like. The answer is it would. That would annoy the fuck out of me
I strongly disagree. If I was stopped and told to go home every time I was out past 8 or 10 or whatever I wouldn't be a happy bunny. I don't go out causing anti-social behavior (I smoke pot and drink occasionally), but most of the time I just enjoy playing some footy in the park, and sometimes just chilling- it is summer and it remains warm and light till 10. It would be ridiculously unfair on the majority on teens. Besides, most of the teens who are causing the trouble would the ones who ignore the curfew, while the curfew would stop us law-abider's from having fun. If this was introduced around here I would be extremely pissed off I was searched the other day for no good reason, and the police officer was a total prick- this would just be further reducing my freedoms.
Well that would bugger up everyone's social life, and what about stuff liek night hikes? That would put a stop to me going to gigs cos they finish at midnight.
They are talking about sixteen and under not seventeen folks, a subtle but significant difference I reckon. A good idea to my mind in certain and specific short term circumstances, but a disaster if overused as a general policy because it will have the stench of a police state.
^^^Yeah, 16-17, the same things apply. Some of the people i hang round with are 16, and one of them 15, so its still unfair. And yeah about the Police State. With most of the worlds CCTV here in Britain, and the possibility of ID cards and curfews- I think we are definitely heading that way. Plus the fact the police seem to take pleasure in searching me and my friends whenever they get the chance.
Yeah but like i said im 20 but "look younger" apparently so im constantly being asked about my age I wouldnt even be able to leave my house in peace Yeah exactly
I have the same problem. With certain bus drivers they give me a childs ticket automatically! Bringing in a curfew is just taking the responsibility off the parents. Already parents are being told their children must attend school. However should they not already wish their children to be at school and also off the streets when appropriate. Maybe instead the government should be educating the parents, and helping those who are struggling.
Surely thats a good thing? I'm 16 and reguallarly out until later, not causing trouble. I go to evening football games which do involve me being out after 10. Gigs are another thing. And what if my dog asks for a walk then? He chooses who he wants to go with and won 't go with anyone else and they are sometimes at 12/1 (probably picks me as i'm the only one up)
I honestly look about 14, being 'small framed' and short and basically young looking. I get IDed for lottery tickets and could never pass as 18. Goes in my favour though, I regularly buy childs tickets on trains.
That's not actually what's going on here: the opening sentence of the article describes it as "A voluntary curfew in which hundreds of parents have been asked to keep their children off the streets at night" (my emphasis). I do agree though that even that is objectionable: it's really up to parents to decide how long they want their kids to stay out, and with older teenagers this should be a matter for negotiation. And if a 16-year old can join the Army as a soldier it makes no sense to try and bar them from the streets after 9pm or whatever.
Parents these days are more often than not unable to make these natural decisions without some kind of voice of the law intervention. Though it is simply voluntary, it does bang the nail on the head for times when parents would instinctively do what is best for their kids. Is it a punitive method that is needed to make parents raise their kids responsibly? With kids as young as 11 hanging out on the streets after dark. It is no wonder that more and more kids are being killed. There are regrettably some mothers, fathers who don't merit the title, but others who do but need family support from specialized agencies. And this government doesn't make it easy for any of us. This is a monumental time. And if we don't get it right now, we will see more and more young people killed. Did it take 100 kids to shed blood on our streets for us to suddenly realise that more active measures be taken? Is it inevitable that now even the law itself must dictate what a parent should and shouldn't do? Or is it possible for parents to do things instinctively? There are reasons why some parents don't always look after their kids right, who don't make responsible decisions and don't take active steps to curb their kids trips outside. Their parents may not have been good roleparents themselves, thus starts a perpetual cycle of young kids becoming raised up without proper guidance by the very people that should know better. Though it isn't allways the parents fault, a lot of things that are happening today, has to come down to parents, families and geography ie, rundown housing estate of a more middle class dwelling with good facilities etc. The voluntary curfew is simply wrong, but much needed it seems because many parents just need an authoritative voice to tell them how to look after their kids. I hope one day, parents can make these decisions themselves. Even though voluntary, it just goes to show how this country is going to the dogs. Not by the parents, but by this government.
