AIG to be bailed out to the tune of $85 billion

Absolutely amazing.

And where does this money come from? Well it comes from the taxpayers, the billions in foreign loans from China, and the Fed's magic trick of printing money out of nothing. Does anyone know what the long-term effect of this is going to be? And when I say "long-term," I mean like within the next year. This is just a temporary fix to something that you're going to see get much worse in the coming months in terms of the overall state of the economy. Every day now we are hearing of another Enron-size bankruptcy.

But of course there is no outrage to be seen or heard from the public. All I hear is what the media tells people to talk about. What I hear is "Sarah Palin said this. Barack Obama did that." They are really taking advantage of the public's incredible ignorance and apathy to pull the wool over their eyes as they are fleeced and looted. I do not feel sorry for these people, as they are reaping what they've sown.

 

Do you think dollars will be converted

or completely destroyed?

 

Please elaborate on what you mean.

 

I'm wonder what's going to happen to the dollar after all this mess...

Are they just going to drop it and start over?
What would happen to everyones dollars?
Could they convert them into the new currency (if it comes to that)
or is everyone just fucked?

 

I guess all those payments I've been sending in for years got lost in the mail or something.


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Well, they are planning on a new currency to be modeled after the Euro, and this is largely what this is all about. What's going on right now isn't just some accident. It is mass criminality which is being hidden by a complicit media that feeds the dumbed-down, entertainment-obsessed public's heads with garbage and election year politics. The only people who are losing out from all this are the little guys at the bottom. The big boys at the top are hell bent on destroying the economy so they can use the chaos that will ensue to pose as our saviors and offer their "solution," or what is already being referred to as a "New Economic Order."

Yes, people are going to lose everything they have ever had. There is going to be mass-chaos and mass-rioting once people are out of work and unable to feed their families. This is why they have been building up their police state infrastructure at such an alarming speed since 9/11. Out of this will come a new integrated economic system. The Middle Class will be completely wiped out and the living standard in this country will be on par with that of Mexico or worse. This all ties in with their plan to usher in this fourth world police state system they have been planning for a very long time.

And yes, people can laugh all they want about what I just said. You are in for a rude awakening.

 

Where can I read a brief summary of who is behind this, what is going to happen, and why? Naturally, I have some questions.

 

I think Mexico and US will be one and the same at that point.

that also explains all the Illegals, and the utter lack of border patrol and fence. as well as the establishments support of the Illegals, how fucked up is that?
I have little doubt US and Mexico will be fused because of the above reasons, but what about Canada?
I still expect it to be the whole "Canamex" thing, I just don't see how they'll ease Canada in the way they have set up to do so with Mexico.
either it'll be abrupt or we'll be seeing Canada in our headlines alot in our future.

what's your take??

 

There's no doubt. The plan is to amalgamate the three countries, and this is scheduled to occur by 2010. I have no doubt the current economic turmoil we're seeing has been orchestrated to coincide with this time period. The big colllapse will occur across the board, and no doubt the entire world will be in a great deal of hurt when this happens. Canada will be offered the same "solution" as the Americans to this manufactured crisis. Getting the people to accept something is simply a matter of creating a big enough crisis so people will accept whatever "solutions" are offered.

 

it's creepy how obsessed they are with 2012 and other numerology (and all the other weird psychological shit!) :[
they seem programmed by some evil sorcerers or something

 

On a serious note,

I wouldn't let weird shit like this keep me up at night if I were you rat.

We always have a back up plan.

Let us worry about this mess you get some sleep.

 

what's your backup plan?

 

I don't worry. Once you understand the world, shrug off your conditioned belief system and begin to look within yourself, you are able to transcend fear. That still doesn't mean I don't have concern for humanity and the generations to come that may not because of these psychopaths.

 

Rat, my question was serious. If am to consider what you are saying, I must presume that there are others with the same views. And something of this scale is sure to have some sort of organized resistance movement. Where do I found out more about this movement and what they stand for? If this movement exists, does it have documented proof of this global takeover?

The reason I sometimes question these "conspiracies" is that they are often only backed up by random links that usually lead to a lot of speculation. It is not that I do not believe that it is possible, or that world leaders and power players are not capable of this, I just require more proof if I am expected to jump on board and fight against something that is supposedly so powerful.

Do not pass this off as my ignorance as to what is happening before my eyes, or whatever cliche that is regularly used. If you truly believe this, and have any hope of stopping this takeover, surely you can oblige my request.

 

Rat

But your solution to this crazy situation is to hand even more power and influence over to the wealth based elites and corporations.

Attacking what is wrong is fair enough but how is making a bad situation far worse in anyway a help?

Oh I know you claim, in fact you claim it very loudly that you are not pro-wealth but even when you’ve been given every opportunity to address the charges levelled at you for some reason you continually refuse to do so.

All you do is say it isn’t true but not why it isn’t true, when every indication it is true, you seem unwilling or unable to explain.

I could give hundreds of examples but lets take a couple of resent ones –

How is it that a rising market raises all boats when most corporations pay no taxes?
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=318597

‘One World Government’ http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?p=4575889#post4575889

Did you refute what I’d said in them?

Did you hell!

As I said and I quote -

“But the thing is you’ve been promoting the same shit for years and time and again I’ve asked you to explain why you promote things that you seem unable to defend and that would only help the wealthy elites but you refuse and instead just keep promoting the pro-wealth line under the ludicrous disguise of being anti-wealth”

Yep you just ran away and begin another thread to spread the same pro-wealth agendas.

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essentially...

all profit is private all debt is public

when the big firms get too big they have to prop these corpses up in the hope that no one realises that they are dead, kind of "weekend of bernies" in a financial sense.

the middle class is the most dangerous class, this is why the government makes war upon it. the middle class is educated and normally has money, they can object to the plans of a dictator and get them out.

given such times you either move up or down. at any rate with the yanks out of work or crippled with debt, they can ship these poor fools off to the eastern front to pay off their debt. the war supporters will resist being sent to the war regardless, you'd have to drag the heros on this site who champion the war kicking and screaming to the battle for their beloved country.

 

Me and the other MIB'S are going to erase all debt world wide.

And its all because of that blasted rat!



*shakes fist at the rainy sky*

 

in less than 2 weeks i will be debt free.. let it fall..
as ive said before,i enjoy the peasant life,ill even pay taxes.. just leave me alone...

 

This is the most wonderful post I have ever seen of yours.

I've always enjoyed the insight you have brought to these forums. But I didn't expect to read looking within and transcending fear from you. :cheers2:

Please don't take that last part personal

 

This is not a bailout. AIG shareholders have lost about 97% of their money - and the share price has fallen since the "bailout" was announced.

The problem here is that people love websites that tell them what they want to hear - even if that means getting lied to.