African history: ALL our history

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  1. GrayGuy57

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    In recent years there has been a good deal of discussion about just where "people" originated------I was greatly interested in reading that the earliest traces of "people" (This writer is experiencing keyboard issues at present so please bear with your writer) were found in Africa; too-this does not surprise yours truly as supposedly the continents were all landlocked and Africa was the center of this huge landlocked area; so if early "peoples" originated in Africa and then through any thousands of years relocated to other areas (again thousands of years back) then it would stand to reason that ALL of us are of African descent-a bloodline that goes back to the start of the world--------so it would stand to reason that we today regardless of our heritage/race/color are of African descent--------personally-it would be for this fellow now typing these words to able to celebrate another rich culture (his ancestors originated in Europe and in Ireland)-----------today we should all be looking for what BINDS US TOGETHER instead of what differences (often superficial) there are between us------after all we ALL share this planet and our bloodlines reach far far back to the earliest days of the planet-this also I think well explains this fellow's long fascination with Africa-its peoples and its cultures-------------
     
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    Over 50 years ago, I learned in school the out-of-Africa (or single-source) origin of our species as long-established fact. There are some fringe theorists who propose multi-regional models of human origin, and there always will be, but they've always had the bulk of scientific evidence against them. Really, the only credible discussion in recent years is how DNA evidence consistently confirms the single-source origin of the genus Homo in Africa 2.5 million to 3 million years ago, and of our Homo Sapiens species on the same continent much later.

    Treat it as established fact, not as a recent discovery, an unknown, or a subject on which there is conflicting evidence and credible competing theories.
     
  3. GrayGuy57

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    Regardless of our skin color or ethnic background, wse are all of ONE race.....the HUMAN race.

    We are ALL "brothers in one", regardless of what some believe..............
     
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    Humans have DNA from neanderthals and Devisonians and probably other subspecies as well. The interbreeding of prehuman species has happened over millions of years and there will never be a clear picture of how we got here. It was never one species that evolved on its own.
     
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    Agreed; and it indeed makes for some excellent and thoroughly "in depth" study today.

    Sadly, today, with mankind becoming even more hostile and more destrictive by the day, one cannot help but wonder if we are going BACKWARDS instead of FOWARDS.

    Too much of today's "civilization" is reverting (and regressing) more and more towards the caveman days.

    Might I suggest reading the truly outstanding "Earth's Children" series by Jean Aurell; the author of these books researched life as it was during the last Ice Age, 30,000-25,000 BC, in the vast area what is today Europe.

    So thoroughly did the author research for these acclaimed books that anyone would have thought that she actually traveled back 30,000 years in time!

    When one reads of effective medicines derived from plant life, designing and hand-crafting tools, utensils, weapons, etc. (not to mention building small "boats"), one cannot help but to realize that these "primitive" people were indeed self-sufficient, and also, were often more "advanced" than most today realize..............
     
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  6. wooleeheron

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    The evidence I've looked at all suggests that both racism and rape are actually a cellular level response. Apparently, the cells of our bodies, including our neurons, depend on honesty more for their very survival, and use racism and rape as a way to ensure our dna isn't lost forever, when our cultures become self-destructive. The movie Hotel Rwanda is a good example. Europeans invaded their country, and arbitrarily began dividing all the different tribes up into high and low class races, using arbitrary physical features. The cells of our brains rely on pattern matching, so they could easily adopt the same racism, not as a way to promote racism, but as a way to ensure their dna wasn't lost forever.

    Today, along with the invention of modern birth control, populations are imploding around the world. The love is simply not there, and never was, while their own technology has empowered them to commit voluntary genocide, for cheap thrills. Rapists tend to be Racists, who Rape people of a different race. Thus, ensuring their dna isn't lost forever, when their culture is lost.

    In some real sense, they simply can't reproduce, and the cells of their own body know it. Don't expect anything from academia on the subject, the AMA helped to hide all the evidence for PTSD and brain damage for 30 years, and will be the last people to advise their own patients, that voting and watching TV are now among the worst health hazards.
     
  7. GrayGuy57

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    One of the reasons I feel that the studies of ancient peoples are so greatly fascinating is that there is so much to be learned, so much of tremendous value.

    Think of the many humble skills (yes, skills) required by, say, the Cro-Magnons, simply to survive (the "Earth's Children" series of books provide a wealth of knowledge on this subject)

    Now, read about the great Ashanti Empire in Africa; read also of the people who were the first to smelt iron on the face of the Earth.

    In the outstanding and awe-inspiring "CLAN OF THE CAVE BEAR" (Aurell) we read of the Neanderthals referring to the Cro-Magnons as "The Others".

    The Cro-mangons, on the other hand, referred to the Neanderthals as "flatheads".

    Ice Age racism?

    "They're not human........they are not like us.......they are filthy animals......."

    Regardless, I often wonder how, in 2024, in the 21st century, that we can be so technology-advanced, and yet be so primitive and ignorant, regarding those who are different than us?

    Why can't we look INSIDE a person to see what he is REALLY like?

    After all, what does a person's skin color matter?

    It is truly superficial.

    If only people......ALL people......could finally accept the fact that we are all of ONE race.....the HUMAN race.......and to hope for a future time when, perhaps, there will not only be a cure for cancer, but also, a cure for hatred, a deadly disease that, today, is spreading to far and too fast through the world.

    If only...................
     
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    We occupy a Goldilocks universe, that ensures everyone is always elevated to their level of incompetence, but that also ensures that life remains two steps forward, and one back again, because the greater truth is alive, with a life and a will of its own.

    Think of our reality as God's play pen, it obeys the rules of the playground, according to Karma. That's why it can be so confusing, and why we need a theory of everything right about now.
     
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    It's simply the DNA imperative that causes us to discriminate on a genetic basis. All lifeforms have this drive to mate with their own kind who appear similar, and likewise to reject those who don't.

    Our DNA controls our behavior far more than we realize.

    Btw, I read the Earth Children trilogy like 30 years ago...
     
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    Many dead-ends on the hominid evolutionary tree earlier than Denisovans and Neanderthals will likely never be clear, but the relationship of Denisovans and Neanderthals to modern humans is clear, and it is clear that we did share a common ancestor in Africa (a single species) until about 600,000 years ago, and that the split happened while that population was still in Africa. Those hominids who left Africa before about 500,000 years ago have no living descendants. They passed along no DNA to the current population.

    Some put the last common ancestor as as late as 300,000 years ago, and some as early as 800,000 years ago, but it is clear that the origin of the entire human genome is in Africa. Continuing interbreeding of previously separated subspecies in Asia, Europe, and elsewhere up to 30,000 years ago happened, but it was possible only because they all shared a single population of common ancestors in Africa.

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