Advice about Jimson Weed

And please don't say "Don't do it". I know it's a poison. I've done alot of research on places like erowid.com and across the internet and have a good idea how bad it can go. Either way, it's going to happen. This is something I want to do.

This is why I'm trying to get as much information and advice on it before I try it. (Still half way into the winter, so I have plenty of time)

What I want to know is:

Proper dosage for my body weight, (not exactly sure how much I weigh.. maybe around 170-180)

How to identify a good plant (I have a general idea what it looks like from google image search.. I had one in my old back yard without even knowing it. They seem to be everywhere[And if I'd want to find a plant at a certain level of maturity and how to identify that])

What part of the plant is best to eat (I've heard everything from the roots to the seeds works)

If it's best to eat/smoke/drink


I've done Acid/Mushrooms/Salvia and even shit like PCP(Do not recommend the latter. Not a joyous experience at all) So I have some experience with psychedelics. But the shit I've tried so far never took me out as far as I wanted to go. Well, Salvia was a trip and a half, but it really only worked at random and when it did it was just sort of a dream state that I had no lucid control over.

Or any other advice that doesn't apply to this subject would be welcome too.

 

Datura isn't a psychedelic, its a deleriant, and I've heard that aside from the main effects you also have the worst headache and general ill feeling that you could ever imagine to hinder the experience with.

Its funny, I had a dream last night that my friend had some datura seeds and i was trying to convince him not to do them then I ended up doing some.

 

Reading the stories on erowid it seemed pretty damn psychedelic to me.

What exactly does deleriant mean? I know PCP is a deleriant and I've done that a few times. I didn't really like the experience, but I never had a problem keeping my head. I mean... really simple shit took me a long time to do. Like lighting a cigarette or remembering how stairs work. lol

But the last time I did it there were thoughts running through my head like "What if I ODed and I'm dead right now?" and I felt like I had to constantly remind myself to breath.

But from what I real Datura seems nothing like that?

 

lol, sure I'll post it. It's still pretty cold out so I suppose I have a while to wait.

Random: The first time I did acid was on 4/19. I didn't even realize the significance of that date at the time, but that's a pretty neat coincidence.

 

I used to add the seeds/plant-material to my marijuana. It definitely felt like something "else" was there but I'm not sure if it was placebo.

 

So know one else has done this shit?

 

Have you ever had a really, really old dog and the week before he passed away he would find himself getting lost in the corner of the room and just randomly wining to himself. Or an very old person who is lost without knowing where they are, how they got there or what year it is.

The effects of datura are said to be identical to that of delusional insanity, where your mind is lost in a psychotic episode of a twisted reality where your mind is incapable of telling the difference between what is real and what is not real. Your mindstate won't be like that of a psychedelic like acid or mushrooms, but instead you will be completely oblivious to the fact that you've taken anything or why your dead grandad is talking to you and slowly dissolving into sand.

Aside from that you may not even be in control of yourself for the duration of the experience. Its all well and good saying 'its cool, i just won't strip naked, trash my house and run onto the busy highway,' because you won't even be aware that you're doing it. Even if you have a sitter with you you have to be aware of what danger you could be putting your sitter in. not necessarily psysical danger, but danger of what you might do threaten your friendship, such as climbing on a chair and pissing on them.

I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, just be fully aware of what could happen if you do take it, and don't dismiss any negatives, because the negatives are phenomenal. It can also cause you severe mental damage for years afterwards, not to mention the possibility of accidental fatal poisoning.

EDIT: Oh, and PCP is a dissociative, bad things to mix up

 

Ah. yeah. I'm still trying to expand my knowledge about this shit. I haven't tripped in over two years now. That was the period I really first discovered it. And I was so in love with the feeling I over did it a bit. Eating mushrooms about 3-5 times a week for two or so months. Ending the pattern with an acid trip on bicycle day. After that I promised myself I'd take a year off and just get my head strait.

It's been two years, and I've decided I'm not quite done yet. But yeah, I want to at least know what I'm getting into.

Jimson sounds like just the experience I want. But I'm thinking I should get out of public when I do it. thinking get a few pods and go camping in the woods or on the beach. Just away from people so I don't get myself in trouble. I'll deal with 'getting lost' when I come to that bridge.

 

Look up the effects of schizophrenia is my advice. Datura seems to be similar.

Though I never tried it, I experienced being schizo. Which was not fun & hardly beneficial in any positive ways. I know a guy who went missing after taking datura and still has never shown up.

Have you tried DMT or ayahuasca? Didn't see you mention that. Maybe that will take you where you want to go.

 

Like I've said I tried smoking it. I've heard a lot of people do it this way for shorter and more mild effects. Honestly I wouldn't really go for the 24-48 hour thing, you can't really confront any of the problems once your "There". You'll be in a delirious state, doing things like stripping, running off, and other crazy shit is the "result" of that state. Most people aren't even conscious enough to remember what happened, they are just told or see what they've done.

But smoking, it doesn't have to be any of that. So try it out with some dried leaves and other plant material.

 

This is pretty much right on the dot. I ate about a tablespoon of seeds and it was nuts. Like someone else said you pretty much go into a schizophrenic state where you can not know the difference between what is real and what isn't real. I advise you not to do it, but you will anyways. I guarantee that if you do it you will not like it. I would be willing to bet money even that you will dislike it.

 

If you didn't like the effects of PCP where in the hell did you get the idea that you would "enjoy" datura????????????????

Keep in mind as previously mentioned dosage is very imprecise with it and DEATH is a very real possibility.

 

Why doesn't this topic come up more often?? I love reading about this plant so much. Its just so interesting. (Not being sarcastic or anything)

 

Never tried DMT, never heard of the second one. I don't even know where to find that shit.

 

lol, this is giving me a lot to think about. I still have this unshakable curiosity.

And I can't help but laugh at the idea of climbing a chair and pissing on a close friend.

I've never done anything that I couldn't maintain control of. And I just know that I like the feeling of a free swinging wang so getting undressed and going outside is more than likely...

 

If you decide to do this, you will not have control trust me. I dug up an old thread on this with more info, check it out.
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=259485&pp=10&page=3
It has my TR about half way down the page and all of it is 100% true with no exaggerations.

 

I remember those stories. I ended up deciding I'd never ingest that shit orally.. People need to realize that you're just not conscious at all while you're under the influence. Equivalent to sleepwalking or worst.

 

Lol, I love this topic, but trust me if you are going to do this you need balls, not only that but risk brain damage/ and or going crazy.

If you do end up doing it, then whatever you do, make sure you post your trip report.

 

that is such a good story!
i loved every second of it!

 

Hahaha yeah it's kind of cool now to go back and read what happened, but at the time it was so crazy. We are very lucky none of us got hurt.