Advanced Aliens 'Destroying' Us?

I've always believed that we will use up earth's resources well before we can even engineer a star ship to take us to other planets and galaxies.

The way we populate earth with cities and towns, unless they can build a star ship out of salt water, we'll have to bulldoze all those cities and town down to get the resources back.

Cause they always telling us we're gonna run out sooner or later and we can't get passed the moon, if we've even gotten there, so I don't see much of a hope.

 

That's not a reason to go self extinct on this little marble. Hm.. maybe it could be in consideration for alien life. But I say we should invest in space exploration, even if an important factor is wealth (asteroid mining). Slowly but steadily. So not yet in starfighters and Jedi orders

 

Another galaxy will take awhile lol. Wouldn't wait for that to come in reach. Or did you mean another solar system? That's also impossible for now. But it is nonsensical to start thinking this big. If we will ever get somewhere in space it will start with colonies on the moon or Mars. This is likely also where a more advanced spaceship would be constructed, not on Earth at least. But first we need to be able to live in a space colony and mine nearby objects. These things it seems are in reach technically.

 

most of the resources life depends on renew themselves, if we don't destroy the means by which they do so.
that doesn't mean things we try to impress each other with, but the basics of life.
(that's what the big thing about environment is about, because we ARE threatening them)

we can start populations elsewhere when we've found ways to make elsewhere's sustainably life supporting for us, which we haven't quite yet.

but existing populations, there just isn't the resources, that much, to move as many of us as we are, even a tiny fraction of as many of us as their are,
to produce the energy it would take, to lift us all out of our planet's gravity well.

so as a solution to population pressure, it isn't. as a solution to species survival, well that's a 'it would be if', and that's an if, that is potentially in reach.
its also, if when we get that far, well its us who would be the treat, except of course, if we ever run into someone else, they're as likely to be ahead of us as behind.

and they might not be as isolated from each other as we will have been up until then either.
so it just might be a good idea, if, when, we get that far, to be on our best behavior.
better then we've been among ourselves for quite some time.

 

What leads you to believe that a more advanced spaceship would likely be constructed somewhere other than Earth?

Whether it be Moon or Mars, it would take many, many years of devoting resources to terraform. Barring unforeseen circumstances, surely tech will advance by leaps and bounds on Earth.

 

They'll never get the funding and support for it here.

The moon/Mars colonists will have different priorities.

 

Where are they going to get the resources from?

 

Asteroid mining

 

there are no certainties.
politics and culture vary the rate and vectors of advancement,
and ecopocalypse, if not prevented, will be a major speedbump.

not that this would help developments for humans off earth either.
more likely prevent or curtail such developments at all.

which is why the rush now, to establish such footholds while we still have any sort of a chance.
the one advantage of legrange points and even low earth orbit and luna,
is not being down in earth's gravity well. but it is a big one.

the disadvantage of course, is having to bring your own ecosystem,
or a hell of a supply of its products.

as for destroying us,
our own hatred of logic is destroying us,
just like it kept europe ignorant and impoverished for more then a thousand years,
what is called the dark ages,
which were no problem for anyone else,
until 'the age of exploration' started exporting it.

no doubt collective guilt of conscience prompts fear of otherness

----

some people are taught to hate logic. and of course, when they do that, they have nothing.
and some are convinced they have nothing because someone else is taking it away from them, when it is their hatred of logic that is doing so.
this kept europe ignorant and impoverished for more then a thousand years.

elsewhere, not knowing of this, life went on just fine, until of course, its victims showed up, believing they knew better,
because they had much practice in hurting each other.

not that no one else ever hurt each other, just that it was not the meaning of life to do so.

here is a thing and a hope that is more then idle hope,
that always are born some, for whom hating logic, is not the meaning of life.

 

My primary thought there was inspired by most scifi An advanced spaceship (to travel further and longer) is likely a lot bigger as well and might be suited for space travel only. Not for landing or taking off through different planets atmospheres. Therefor it might also be better to construct or at least assemble it on a surface with less resistance (moon or mars) or in space itself, likely in orbit. Since Earths orbit is already littered with space trash and there being other possible risks of having such a thing in Earths orbit it might be more practical to do it on or around the moon or Mars.

If we will colonize Mars it won't start with terraforming. And maybe we will never terraform it. It's 'just' our first steps in colonizing beyond Earth. Not our next homeworld.

 

First , point-to-point instantaneous real-time communications are necessary . Distance re: galactic communications must become irrelevant . This may require adopting a new concept of language . Then send out a nice robot ambassador . Surely we could do better than whoever sent the Greys considering their stupid abduction practice .

 

Why , robot , do you wear bikini shorts , boots and sunglasses ?

 

That alien was not very scary

 

She seems to have no space weapon .

 

Well... You don't want his nuts and bolts just hanging out there, do you?

 

With our luck , the bastards will be 5,000 feet tall and love meat!!

 

believe it or not, i read the damon knight story in an anthology of his, without ever having seen or knowing about the twilight zone episode based on it, until much later.
in 59, when i was 11, we did watch twilight zone, but somewhat irregularly. i'm not sure of the reason, but it may have been the same time on a different station as outer limits.
met damon and kate at u of o (be fun to call that ufo) in 79. college was putting on a play they'd written for soft sculpture artist who's name i forgot.
audience sat in middle of large room, on the floor, acting and soft sculpture was all around on all sides. those were the days.