Abortion: A parents right or Downright murder.

It had to be brought up sometime, right? Well, here it is.

Abortion, is it a parent's right? Or First Degree Murder? I'll give my personal opinion later on, when the thread gets going. Here are some facts you might want to take into account, though.

Brain activity starts at 4 weeks.
The child is fully formed at around 3 months.
More religions than just Christianity are against Abortion, including Buddhism, Judism, Wicca, Paganism, and many more.

After abortion was legalized, child abuse rates dropped dramatically.
Underaged mothers have gone on to contribute dramatically in fields of medicine, literature, and science after aborting. They would not have had that chance if they had kept the child.
It had to be brought up sometime, right? Well, here it is.

 

I think abortion is an essential thing to have available. I don't encourage it, but if you don't want to have a baby, don't have it. Obviously do everything you can not to get pregnant in the first place, but people get raped and contraception fails, no one has the right to make you keep it or try to change your mind.
Part of my job is to refer people to, and take them to abortion clinics if that's what they so choose. While the fetus may be somewhat alive, it is still part of the mother, so she should decide what she wants to do with it.

 

I think it must be super super early, because then its just the same as contraception or the day after pill. And if it is to be aborted, both perants must say yes, not just the mother or the father individually, and if one wants it to live, then it lives.

 

I don't know about the laws overseas, but here the father has absolutely no say whatsoever to what happens to the child, whether it be keeping, aborting or adopting out. Is it the same elsewhere?

 

I totally agree with abortion as long as its not used as a form of contraception. Its ok as an emergency procedure and no person should be made to have a child they don't want.

First degree murder? Isn't that deliberately and knowingly killing another human being.

An unborn child up to the age where they are currently allowed to be aborted doesn't even have fingerprints and has no id. Its not a human being yet. Potentially it could be a human being but then are you going to arrest every man who plays with himself and wastes sperm. Potentially each one is a baby.

As for father's rights. I'm a father and a very happy one but I think it should be the woman's decision and solely her decision. If she doesn't want to go through with it then as much as I feel sorry for the potential father I think its tough. Basically women take contraception everyday. If for whatever reason the normal method of contraception fails should this mean a woman has to have a child by a man.

As for the other way around. What if the woman wants the child but the guy doesn't? Well two trails of thought here.

1. He could have been more careful. (but then looking at my previous argument you could say the woman should have been more careful if she hadn't wanted pregnancy).

or

2. If the woman decides to have the child and the guy doesn't want it then he should be able to denounce all responsibility before the child is born wavering financial and other responsibility because his choice is not to have a child and therefore the woman is choosing to go it alone.

Abortion I'm ok with, the rest of the politics is going to be a never ending argument where noone and everyone is right.

 

Judaism doesn't oppose abortion, they just have specific rulings on when (how long into the pregnancy) a person can have an abortion.

 

That's not as easy if they're married.

 

Why is abortion still a dam argument? Why cant people see it is murder?
I guess there will always be those who are willing to fight for what is wrong.

 

Jesus, you can't force someone to have a child. If someone seriously wants to abort their child, chances are it won't have a very stable, loving life to look forward to if it's born.

 

What does any of this have to do with globalisation?

 

Women should be able to have the choice.

 

thats what i was wondering!!

 

So should children who cant speak for themselves.

 

Nonesense, they can give it up for adoption.

 

Nonesense, they can give the child up for adoption.

 

Nonesense, they can give the child up for adoption.

 

Dam, multiple posts.

 

it's not abortion, it's outright infanticide, u guys think infanticide is legal? u kno the feeling of 1000 needles stab on u? u kno the feeling of dismemberment? have u seen the tears of aborted baby, well if u haven't, read what ABORTION SURVIVORS wrote:
http://www.pregnantpause.org/abort/jessen.htm u wish her being dead now huh?

 

Yes, that's a very good point and I do explain this to women/girls who come to me for information, but often they just don't want to have a child. Their safety or the child's safety may be in danger if she has it, or for example if her parents discover she is pregnant. If there is potential harm for the mother, child or someone else, abortion is often the best option.

 

"My biological mother was 17 years old and seven and one-half months pregnant when she made the decision to have a saline abortion"

That's a very advanced stage of pregnancy to have an abortion, and I disagree with the abortion even being considered at that time.