A Proposed Bill In New York ...

A proposed bill in New York seeks to require that all smartphones sold in the state can be decrypted or unlocked and proposes hefty fines for noncompliance.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-iphone-ban-new-york-looks-to-outlaw-sale-of-encrypted-smartphones/

This is fascism! I feel they are going to face a lot of backlash from tech companies. Do they expect Apple to design a "new york version" of the iPhone just for this stupid law. Burn in hell fascists!

Best to leave ur smart phone at home sometimes, and not use it to store sensitive things.

I remember when New York thought they were gonna ban Bitcoin too, ... yeah ... right LOL.

 

What i have been doing for awhile now...leaving my smart phone at home...I really do not need it when I am out in the world, anyway....but I started doing this to keep hackers off my butt a few weeks ago already....

I guess we in NY will need to resort to making smoke signals in the sky to communicate again ....LOL

I have not been impressed with any NY politicians. i liked Cuomo, and was hoping that his handsome son would do something by now.

 

I had a friend that always told me that 'smart phones are dumb phones' ... smart phones are great for keeping your professional contacts organized.. but if you just need a literal phone, that's what calling cards and cheap prepaid phones are for. Just remember to take the battery out when you're done using it.

I doubt this bill will pass though, they will have way too much trouble out of pretty much every tech company ... Tech companies tend to be upset when they lose customers because they're customers don't trust them

 

I never wanted one of these phone to begin with.....but it was kind of forced on me at the time.....I heard that the waves from them may cause brain cancer, too, in time.

 

Not quite true ... microwaves emit radiation at about the same frequency, and there is no perfect shielding, so they leak a bit of microwave energy. So microwaving something exposes you higher levels of this radiation than using a cell phone.

Also worth noting, if you were to stand within viewing distance of a giant nuclear fusion reactor for a few hours, you would be exposed to far more EM radiation of this type than you're phone will ever emit in your entire life. We call this experience "going outside", and "daytime"

 

I do not have a microwave and nor will i ever have a microwave.....

 

I don't think you can avoid the big fusion reactor in the sky though

 

Do you think it's an all bad idea? I think that it would suck to get caught having something I'm not supposed to have on my phone, but I also think that regulation is appropriate under certain circumstances.

 

The government CAN and already is doing these things.

 

This problem should have been taken care of on a national level a long time ago.

The weather in hell is quite nice today.

By the way, what did you intend for your thread title and first line of the OP to be? This is quite a mess, but I can fix it.

 

Protip: don't have stuff that you could get caught for on a "smartphone" ... when you clone another IMEI number, use cloned sim card, replace android/ios with se-linux then you MIGHT be able to trust a "smartphone" ... no matter what tho they can track the phone based on which towers it handshakes with.

 

I'm afraid that no matter what they do, they're gonna have some problems that they can't solve. Some people just aren't the dumb sheep they think. There is custom bootloaders and firmware out there that will basically nuke the device, rendering it completely bricked if it detects any type of tampering, or forensics based attempted attacks ... solve that problem. It's worth noting that this type of software doesn't come from companies like apple.

Keep your professional contacts on ur smartphone, thats fine everyone knows about that anyway. Anything else, keep it somewhere safe, like an encrypted usb flash drive.

That's fine if you enjoy living in an Orwellian 1984-esque society, but you don't have the right to force it on others. Would you be okay with me breaking into your phone?

And I guarantee you, that if this bullshit goes too far, there will be a massive outbreak of hacktivism as people unite to fight back against electronic tyranny ...

 

Land of the free :-D

 

Yes! You wouldn't learn a goddamned thing. No credit card numbers, no bank account numbers, so SS number, no anything you can use against me. All that stuff is stored on removable media, or on paper. On a typical day, you wouldn't learn anything important by intercepting my communications either. There are ways to get around that, as there always have been.

Knowing as much as you do about how easy it is to hack both ends of a transaction or message, as well as the middle, I'm surprised that you make yourself so vulnerable.

BTW, I fixed the title and OP as best I could, since you didn't answer my question about it.

 

For some people it is not about there not being any thing private or important on their phone, Karen. It is already about the principle of breaking into it against the owner's will and not with their consent. It is their freaking phone. It does not matter if there are no naked pics or credit card numbers etc. etc. on it. Sure, that would make it even worse for a person if it got broken into, but for other people the breaking into it is already an issue (which seems understandable. You rarely hear people say stuff like they can break into my garden shed any day because there's nothing in there they can learn about me).

 

Fighting serious crime isn't always convenient for everybody. If a few privacy fanatics have to get pissed off in order to save the life of someone I care about, that's fine with me. They can rant online until the end of time, for all I care.

 

It's all about how troubling it is to the individual itself. When they see and think it can not harm them (because they mind the info that's on their phone or for any other reason) they become indifferent to the concerns about the whole issue... until of course it goes wrong, then they care and rant online just the same as anybody. Or not, if they're really apathic about such issues.

It's not about that they can't get anything from your phone now, it is that they have the means and excuse to break into it at any time. It's like the garden shed or your car: it's not that bad that they can merely get your lawn mower or car radio. But it is bad that they break into your stuff. That it seems to differ with digital stuff for some people is not really smart. Some day there will be that possibility to get from one message on your phone to some more sensitive/important info on your pc (for example). Tolerating this shit because you most likely won't ever be a victim may cause a fellow citizen a lot of needless trouble.

 

Morons. Who cares what they think?

 

Sure, someone used their phone in a stupid way. They deserve to get broken into it and in the worst case get their bank account plundered! Wtf cares. Morons right. Stupid people deserve everything they get.

edit: too quick. spelling

 

In the example you quoted I was explaining how you sounded to me Not others. You don't care because you feel secure.