a new color

I've always had trouble sleeping. In my teens, a strange experience often occurred just before sleep. As I lay on my back with eyes closed, I could feel myself spinning backward, head over heel, or perhaps I should say, heel over head. Then I would feel myself float up to the ceiling. I could sense it just before my face. A new color would occur to me, eyes still shut, it was something like sandlewood, but it had a texture like an egg carton. The wierd thing is, that with my eyes closed, I did not see the color so much as smell it.

 

You can smell color?! Imagine the potential if you taught this skill to the blind!

 

Had I had a mentor in my youth, someone who recognized what was inside me, and trained me, I might have a skill today. Alas! What might have been is relegated to a short thread in the 'wierd' forum.

 

A color can not have a texture.

I sincerely doubt your intelligence.

 

Doubt what you will.

Your doubt changes not a thing.

This is, after all, the wierd forum - take your doubts to the Christian forum, where doubting is all the rage.

 

why cant colour have texture? it can have lots of thing to a synasthesiest (pardon spelling)!!!

 

If you want to change the english language yes.

What the man saw was not a new colour, but what he assumed to be a new colour, with a texture like an egg carton.

If a colour has a texture, then it is no longer a colour but a variety of colours. This is obvious.

 

there are no new colors

color is created by frequency numbers. and if we go higher than red the light is no longer visible, if we go lower than blue, the light is no longer visible. in between those two frequency ranges are all the colors of the visible spectrum, or rainbow.


in order to invent a new color, you would have to invent a new number somehow.

 

How dry, and one-dimensional your thinking is, death - oh but wait - I did say my eyes were closed.

 

Actually...I cannot speak for death, but I have the intelligence to see where you're coming from. Unfortunately what you have proposed is not a venture into a realm of cosmic thought but a moronic perversion of terms and language. Give me something truly imaginative and objective and not "Its a new colour because I say it is" and I might not regard you as an idiot.

 

Why do you seek to scorn and criticize?

Critics rarely believe anything - whatever you give them is only fodder for further criticizm.

As far as giving you anything: I owe you nothing.

Not to mention that "imaginative" and "objective" are often found on opposing sides of the court.

 

The destruction of pre-conceived notions about reality holds far greater virtues than the continual justification of this pathetic fantasy. Give me quantum physics, give me fiction, give me destruction of the ego, give me childlike innocence...

....but that you saw a "new" colour that was like sandalwood with a texture of egg carton?

Please grow up

On my use of the word "objectivity", you're right. That was my bad.

 

Dude - free speech is as free for me as it is for you.

You demand so much.

But what have you given?

Put an offering on the wierd forum alter.

 

Have you been denied your right to free speech?
Am I not expressing according to MY right to free speech?

Please stop, you're killing me

I only HOPE that you show us all the common courtesy of using God's gift of intelligence. What you perceive that I demand is in your court!

 

Daniel, stop you're just encouraging it.....or keep going. It is fun to watch.

 

??? it is entirely possible to experience a color as a different sense than sight, clinically its called synysthesia. in fact, there are so many possibilities and realms of experience the brain can produce outside of our normal awareness, it is impossible to objectively measure them yet. he experienced what he experienced and he only has the familiar senses of touch and sight and smell etc. to draw on when trying to relate, when in truth the experience was just a feeling like any normal feeling but just very unusual, and it occured before sleep, most likely in the hypnogogic state when the brain is acting very unusual (look it up). i don't know how you can judge someone's intelligence based on what they have felt.

 

damn man i didn't even see that one. wtf? imaginative and objective? imagination is the opposite of the rational, objective mind. he's not a poet, he used the best objective words he could find. i had a very intense psychedelic experience once where i remember something that had a scooby doo feel to it. i can't explain it at all but thats what sticks out in my mind is a scooby doo feeling. anything is possible man, and when you insult someone's intelligence because they feel they experienced something that you haven't, you limit and discourage those possibilities for yourself and others. lighten up man

 

Thank you, tumbledownDNA, not so much for standing in the breech, but as being worthy of such open forums.

 

the mind works on relations. the mind is not based on what IS and what ISNT, it is based on what SEEMS, and what REMINDS of.

lying in a field is trying to seem smart, and does bring up some logical errors in his opponent, but the issues here all come down to understanding not only what colour is, but what it means when someone tries to explain an experience. his logic fails to consider the fact that humans (including himself, as we can see by his arguements) are not based on what is and isnt but on what things seem as to their best ability or desire to discern.

it might seem as though colour cant have texture, or else it would in fact be multiple colours, but what does it mean when someone reports that a colour has a texture? it means that the experience they percieved left a link in their mind not only to a vague hue but other feelings, which only the person who felt them could comment on specifically, feelings that relate to similar psychological responses as the word 'texture' which was used.

 

exactly... in order to describe, you have to describe using the sometimes lousy constraints of language and interrelation.

well put bill.