a honest question to you vegans,, concerning a scenario like katrina..

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by hippiehillbilly, Sep 4, 2005.

  1. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    So youve waited 3 days to be rescued no food no water,, your finally rescued and given meals ready to eat and told thats all you get for at least several more days,, what do you do??

    Starve to death or eat animal products??

    Please respond honestly, youve seen the pictures,,youve seen the sufferring what do you do?
     
  2. stephaniesomewhere

    stephaniesomewhere Member

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    honest truth is that in the twenty two years I haven't eaten meat there have been one or two times that it has been in my food in terms of stock or sauce and I have got the runs so I figure I really don't want to get that in a situation like Katrina so I would try and see if I could pick round it but if not I would probably be better off going a bit hungry for a bit longer.....
    :(
     
  3. pabsy

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    honestly?...well in a life or death situation i imagine my self preservation instinct would cut in....
    If i just had to wait a couple of days or so i think i'd want to hold out....
     
  4. Boogabaah

    Boogabaah I am not here

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    why is it assumed that the only thing that they are being given to eat has animal product in it?

    i'm sure they are getting plenty of canned veggies.

    i know in other countries when organizations like the red cross come in to help starving people the first thing they give them is bread. easy to digest and the 'sugars' convert to energy quickly.

    animal products are expensive. if everyone on the plant was vegan we'd have 5 times as much food thats neded to feed EVERYONE.
    part ofthe reason i became vegan.. i don't want to be part of the problem..
    the problem being people are starving while livestock.. are being fed feed that could feed humans.. but instead are being turned in steak, pork chops... etc.

    i think it's somewhere near 70% of corn and grains are feed to livestock.. really selfish if you ask me
     
  5. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    well its a scenario number 1,, and number 2 the first food into new orleans was MRE'! MEALS READY TO EAT!!

    Prepackaged for the military!

    Look if ya dont wanna answer my question honestly then dont reply with off topic bullshit about the aid that comes to folks after there evacuated!!

    Show me anyone that was sitting at the superdome eating anything but MRE'S!!
     
  6. Boogabaah

    Boogabaah I am not here

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    okay fine.. then the answer is no.. i'd rather starve:p
     
  7. PIXIEFIED

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    i think i probably would, id be too busy looting the place though
     
  8. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    I'd survive. If that meant swapping with folks, great. If it meant critter, shortest time possible.
     
  9. Boogabaah

    Boogabaah I am not here

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    exactly.. just because they give you a prepackaged meal.. doesn't mean you have to eat it all.. i'm sure someone will trade me their green beans for my meat products:H
     
  10. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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  11. Jorma's Branches

    Jorma's Branches Member

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    I'd rather starve than eat any animal products. I have enough faith in the earth to keep me alive until I'm no longer needed. During that lifetime, I won't be eating animal products.
     
  12. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    ok im tryin really hard to find myself wrong,, but i cant... after a lil research i cant find a single military issue mre whithout animal byproducts or products in them..

    Please someone find something that doesnt include animal byproducts so i can be wrong..

    An as we all know vegans abstain from anything in contact with them,, so i must ask again?/ what do you do??
     
  13. Boogabaah

    Boogabaah I am not here

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    silly question if you ask me.. how many veggies do you know from that area?


    me.. NONE
     
  14. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    so your diggin veggies outta the cesspool an washin them whith what??

    Man we are playin the new orleans scenario,, dont try an make it less of a disaster to suit yer mindsets agenda..

    hooperchick,,, could you contain yer lil vegan ?? ;)

    Im really tryin to stay on topic an not go into wasted posts..
     
  15. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    I hung out with a bunch of veggies when I visited NOLA.
    it is a bit daunting with the fact that for some twisted reason seafood still appeals to me after all these years.

    In a distaster, i believe one takes what they get.
    When I lost my job when kiddo was young, I had 70 celery recipies and two of them really edible. I had lots of celery and rice.

    for me veggie is a choice. sitting on a rooftop in a flood rules out "choice."
    but, I would eat as little as possible after that "i haven't eaten in three days" binge.
    bare survival.

    hh, i'm slipping here, contain my lil vegan? 'splain Lucy.
     
  16. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    man im just tryin to stay on topic,, aint you the mod here??

    truly am just keepin up with the catastrophe,, tryin to learn,, an tryin to stay on topic..

    its a fucked up mess,, an im just tryin to hear all sides,, but when some folks try an change the worst case scenario into the not so bad scenario,, it really defeats the purpose of attempting to gain knowledge now dont it?/

    ;)

    Luv~N~Lite
     
  17. Jorma's Branches

    Jorma's Branches Member

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    I'm not really sure what you're asking now. If it's what I would do if I was in New Orleans during the hurricane, I can answer that.
    First, I would have evacuated before the storm. It was stupid to stay behind if you could have left. If everyone who could have left did, there would probably be a lot less "disaster."
    If you want me to suppose I couldn't leave, then I would have toughed it out like everyone else. If I were being issued food that had animal products in it, I wouldn't eat it. I'm vegan. I do /not/ eat animal products.
    Would I let myself starve? Yes. If it's not my time to die in this life, then Nature will keep me alive. If it is time to die, then I'll die, be it starvation, murder, natural cuases, whatever. I will not eat animal products.
     
  18. ophelia68977

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    For monetary reasons, I really don't think that the relief effort's meals would be mostly steak and hamburger...

    Rice and pasta are the cheapest.


    But seriously, I have heard omnivores ask this same basic question over and over (like...desert island scenario, etc.)

    The point of veganism is to be the most compassionate you can be in your current situation. My current situation right now is that I have plenty of available food and many options... so I choose the most compassionate option...which is of course veganism.

    Digging for vegans to say that they might eat meat in the most desperate situation is not going to descredit veganism, although I know many of you wish it would.



    And, think about this. You're safe away from the flood. You are lucky enough to have many options, including compassionate ones. Why are you still supporting cruelty when your life does not depend on it?
     
  19. Jorma's Branches

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    I disagree. The point of my veganism is that it's possible to sustain myself solely on the earth's bounty. I don't need to rely on animals to keep myself alive. Animals are the sisters and brothers of humans. I don't eat, or consume the products of relatives.
     
  20. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    i aint diggin at noone to discredit nuthin,,..

    Im tryin to spur a intelligent conversation..

    I know the realities of this world ive lived them,, thus i choose to be a opportunivore..
     

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