A curse?

Discussion in 'Weird, Bizarre and Mysterious' started by Devan Rojek, Aug 25, 2010.

  1. Devan Rojek

    Devan Rojek Senior Member

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    Hello everyone. There is something I need to get off my chest. I also contemplated on posting this under the Relationships forum, but there's some weird shit involved in this so here I am.

    The key things here are: "6-year cycle" and "two losses at a time, one being a life." With that in mind, let me elaborate on this...

    I had my first girlfriend when I was 15. It wasn't what I would call a relationship, but I DID love the girl. She and I broke up soon though, and that same year the dog I had at the time died.

    6 years later, I met a wonderful girl. We had a long-term relationship but ended up breaking up eventually. That same year, my grandmother died.

    Then another 6 years passed, and I met someone online. She and I went on to have an online relationship but it was one of those situations where things heated up quick and died even quicker. Speaking of "died", that same year when the girl and I broke up, the dog I had after the other one died.

    The last breakup was really tough to heal, but I managed to recover with time. But during the healing process, I started to notice the aforementioned pattern. To simplify the whole thing, it's basically that every time I get brokenhearted which has so far happened once every 6 years since I was 15, one death of family member follows. And I've already lost 3 lives.

    A part of me want to think it was all a coincidence, but I'm by default a believer of supernatural things and this part of me refuse to think of it as a coincidence. As the result I've been purposely avoiding pursuing anything romantic with anyone for the past few years, for the fear of losing another family member. My parents are getting old and my mother especially has some health issues. If I met someone and pursued a relationship with them, and if that relationship failed and as the result someone in my family died, I'd be devastated.

    It is, of course, made even worse by my mother's nagging at me to find someone and get married and have kids ASAP. I suppose it's a mother thing to do, but I keep telling her I'm not ready yet. I haven't told her about my weird situation. I am convinced she'd just tell me to go ahead and pursue romance anyway, fully aware of the potential that she might be the one dying next.

    Sometimes I also think it might even be ME dying next. I know I'm not as healthy as I used to be, and if my heart breaks again, it might be in the literal sense. I just know I can't die on my parents. They are great people and are very supportive of what I do in general. The last thing I want to do is to put them through a tremendous emotional pain of losing their only child. I can't just carelessly fall in love and break up with the other person and have one of them die either.

    Problem is, I have crushes on people all the time. I had an insanely big one last year, and this year there's this other girl who I can't stop thinking about. The one from last year had a boyfriend, so it wasn't that bad. I just accepted the fact and wished for their happiness. She probably knew I liked her and maybe there was even some spark between us that, under different circumstances might have caused something to happen, but she and I never pursued anything. I think that was for the best.

    The new girl is different. This girl I met online as well. We get along really well and I think it's safe to say she's become a best friend to me on this particular website I frequent. I've also picked up certain things from her that suggested she might like me, too. Under completely different circumstances, I would be telling her how I feel in a heart beat. But the "curse" has a firm grip on me and it keeps me from freely pursuing romance.

    What do you folks figure? Anyone else had a similar experience?
     
  2. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    What you need to do is investigate your family history and genealogy to determine if it’s a generational curse or did it start with you.

    If there’s a six year pattern of unexplained deaths within your family then you need to track down the source of the curse no matter how far back it goes.

    Once you’ve determined who put the curse on your family you have a wide variety of options including hiring a shaman, gypsy, or a witch, to lift the curse or command (beg) the entity in question to lift the curse in the name of jesus christ.


    Hotwater
     
  3. rollingalong

    rollingalong Banned

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    there is no curse..its called coincidence..i could easily go back through my life and equate all the death to random girlfriends......guess why?...because i like girls so there is ALWAYS a lady in my life and there is ALWAYS death and since every relationship has an end it isnt hard to parallell it with someone croaking


    that or you could be cursed
     
  4. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Which is why he should seek my advice and follow my counsel on matters concerning the paranormal [​IMG]


    Hotwater
     
  5. zengizmo

    zengizmo Ignorant Slut HipForums Supporter

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    Hotwater, personally I think Devan could just as well bypass the investigative steps and just go straight to a higher power for intervention. It's not as important where a curse originated as putting faith in a power that can trump whoever or whatever did it - even if the curse is only in the eye of the beholder. ;)
     
  6. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    There's billions of people in the world and thousands die every week. There's no curse here, just a bunch of lousy stuff that happens.
     
  7. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    True but I’d want to know the cause to prevent any future misunderstandings :eek:


    Hotwater :D
     
  8. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    I don't think that you should torment yourself based on the fear of a curse.

    The first reason, as you have already considered, is that it could be purely coincidental. If someone died the same hour that you broke up with someone three times in a row, it would be a little stranger, but a person or animal dying at anytime within the same year is really not that statistically unlikely and there is no logical basis for the association. You seem to be the victim of your own perceptions. Wouldn't you feel like a total idiot if you threw away your happiness over a total illusion?

    Also consider that you may have negelected your dogs due to heart ache and that was a contributing factor in their deaths. Also, dogs don't generally live that long, so if the dog was old, it wouldn't be a surprise that they died. If your grandmother was older than 76, that's about average life expectancy in the us.

    The second reason you should not fear a curse, whether true or not, is that everyone eventually dies. You will die. I will die. Your family will die. Death is an unavoidable fact of life, and the purpose of life is not to avoid death, but to fullfill what is meaningful about life while you live. It seems to me that you would be vastly better off persuing your love relationships and accepting the fact that most relationships will not be life-long, and that eventually everyone dies.

    In the buddhist tradition, the fear of suffering causes even more suffering. I'm not saying that I or anyone should sign on to buddhism, but I think this perspective applies to you here.

    Now I DO believe that the world is a stranger place than is envisioned in the standard western materialistic world view, but that doesn't mean that everything that someone percieves to have a supernatural cause actually has a supernatural cause. In this case, it just sounds like you are afraid of the shadows of your own mind. You might want to see a social worker/ shrink to try to straighten yourself out.

    I would also agree with the idea of seeing an esoteric healer, as long as they are not too expensive. That way, you could cover your esocteric bases, and even if what you are experienceing is just in your head, seeing the healer might be sufficient to reassure you.

    I would recommend checking out the Tibetan Buddhist Chod healing ceremony, if you can find one in your area.

    Hmmm. . . if you beleive in karma, you could do some good deeds/ not do bad things and maybe that would imporove your condition. Even if there's no such think as karma, some good deeds would still be nice:)
     
  9. zengizmo

    zengizmo Ignorant Slut HipForums Supporter

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    Not a bad idea, I guess - especially if you want to countercurse... :p Only thing is, he might never be able to determine the cause, and he'd have wasted all that time fretting. Well, I suppose he could get the ball rolling with the higher power intervening first, and then go look for the culprit with the intervention already in place...
     
  10. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    If my parents or grandparents had a longstanding feud with a band of gypsies or a hougan (voodoo priest) I’d want to know; and yes revenge is a dish best served cold :cheers2:



    H
     
  11. TipsyGypsy

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    Pretty freaky, but I doubt it's any more than a coincidence. Unless you killed your ex girlfriends and this is the universes way of getting back at you, I don't think you are cursed.
     
  12. Devan Rojek

    Devan Rojek Senior Member

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    Thank you for all your replies everyone. :)

    I need to make a correction. I said:

    .... But what I meant to say was every time I get into a relationship, or at least start dating, which has been every 6 years so far, and that relationship fails. Yes I know it's confusing, lol.

    Anyway, I suppose "curse" isn't something I should necessarily use to describe this. I don't even know if another party is responsible for making my situation this way, but rather I'm getting this impression that it's more like a "fate" than a "curse".

    @hotwater - I thought about tracking down the origin of this whole thing... But it's practically impossible as I don't have any information as to what my family's romantic history was like from that far back.

    I must say though, that none of the deaths has been "unexplained". It's just that, even though I know in my head it's understandable my grandma and my dogs died when they did, there's still a part of me that wants to believe they could've lived longer.

    @e7m8 - I can assure you my dogs weren't neglected. And, while I'm a human being full of flaws, I'm among the last to treat others unfairly and such. Or at least I try anyway, I don't really know what other people think of me except for my family and friends who all seem to think I'm a decent person. I DO try to do good deeds for the very reason that I believe in karma.

    @TipsyGypsy - Haha, I am not a murderer, so don't worry. As far as I know, all of my exes are alive and well. :)
     
  13. psychedelic goddess

    psychedelic goddess ♥Messenger of Love♥

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    it's interesting that this happens every six years, as six is the number of love and relationships - with this in mind, it's easier to view this as relationship transition/growth in your life on a recurring basis

    many people experience seven year cycles, perhaps you're just one of the odd ones :)

    also, keep in mind that life evolves in an upward spiral - even if you feel you're going through the same thing time after time, you're actually viewing it from a higher level, looking down on your past.......everytime you go through one of these shifts, you evolve, and the universe prepares you for an even higher level of experience

    fear not - it's simply your awareness of it all that makes the pain and worry more acute...trust that it's all happening for the most perfect reasons in the most correct timing

    don't turn your back on love out of fear of loss - be bold and brave, and...Love! :)
     
  14. Devan Rojek

    Devan Rojek Senior Member

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    Thanks for your response psychedelic goddess. :)

    Come to think of it, there's something interesting about all of my past relationships... That I had always developed an "interest" in them but never a strong feeling of longing for them until AFTER I would start dating them. Not to say I didn't love them, because I most certainly did. It's just that I've had much bigger crushes on others where I would keep my feelings to myself. Either that, or I WOULD express my feelings to them and basically get turned down, in the case of myself back in high school.

    Although I must say it seems like I always end up in situations where turning my back on love is a REQUIRED action to take. I always seem to be attracted to girls who I know would NOT be happy with me in a relationship. It could be anything from our romantic status at the time to differences in beliefs(religious, moral, so on so forth), to our lifestyle choices, and various other things in between that I'm not even going to get into here.

    Here's an example... I was attracted to this one girl last year when I was in this particular city, and the attraction I felt toward her was so strong it was ridiculous. Yet she already had a boyfriend, who happened to be a really cool guy himself, and I naturally felt happy for them both. I think she knew I liked her too, and there might have even been something between US while I was staying there. Nevertheless, neither of us pursued anything romantic with each other. I don't know what would have happened if I'd told her how I felt, but I believe I made the right choice by keeping my feelings to myself in this case.

    At any rate, yes I'm definitely an odd one. I always have been, lol.
     
  15. rollingalong

    rollingalong Banned

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    every time i lose a girlfriend there is a war some where in the world within weeks.....

    dear judy....the balkan islands wasnt that bad...lets get back together
     
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