911.com??

Discussion in 'True Confessions' started by lucyinthesky, Apr 23, 2006.

  1. lucyinthesky

    lucyinthesky Tie Dyed Soul

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  2. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    I couldn't agree more....

    Seriously.
     
  3. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    I hardly think the pigs need to be called on this one.

    Free Speech is a scary thing sometimes, but good thing we have it.

    OTHERWISE...

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  4. seancourt

    seancourt Free Your Mind

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    Yea, it's fucked up, but remember theres alot more people like that out there, and even worse
     
  5. lucyinthesky

    lucyinthesky Tie Dyed Soul

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    Yeah and here's one right now. It's like if there's one at your front door, begging for your help, would you shut it?? 911.com 911.com 911.com.
     
  6. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    Yeah I agree, lucy...really.

    This has nothing to do with free speech or weird people... it has everything to do with the fact that none of us here are entitled to help people who have been raped, or molested, or WHATEVER...and instead of posting on the internet they should be seeking help, or at least someone who is a professional.

    If you can find it so easy to tell the whole world what happened to you, then you should be able to tell a counselor, or someone who can help you.

    It's got nothing to do with free speech. Topics like those honestly make me worried for those people; it's not like it offends me, rather it scares me...and it scares me that they are willing to take advice from some random people over the internet, rather than someone who KNOWS what they are talking about.

    Not to mention, that I cannot understand why something as personal as that, would be so easy to announce to the whole internet.

    And I like your point, lucy, about if someone were at your door, would you shut it? No. I hope no one would...I would hope everyone here would try to find that person help.

    I can't believe some of these things are so easy for people to blow off.

    But whatever I'm done ranting. I don't feel like pissing anyone off right now.
     
  7. cutelildeadbear

    cutelildeadbear Hip Forums Gym Rat

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    First of all, if you were smart and someone were at your door screaming or crying in the middle of the night and you have no idea who the person was and you were home alone being a female yourself, do you honestly think it is a good idea to open the door. Every single person in this office here, has just said hell no, they would not open the door. It is hard to believe but it is true. That is the way the world is these days. You can't even try to help people without having to worry are they trying to kill you. Same reason people don't bother to stop on the side of the road and help a pregnant woman who has a flat tire. Cause it is possible she could be a man dressed in women's clothes trying to find his next victim.

    LOL, I'm not really that paranoid. But the truth of the matter is, that it is easier to come on here and talk about personal things than it is to talk to someone face to face. It is hard to talk to a counselor when you have been raped or molested, it is hard to talk to the police. People come here and post things that they have done or thought about doing or things that have happened to them. People feel somewhat safe here (whether they should or not is a different story, because honestly, there are definitely some things that you just do not put on the internet, duh!)

    But I really don't think getting the police involved with someone who is raped or molested is a good idea. First of all you don't know if that person is telling the truth. I'm not saying that they are lying, please don't misunderstand. I'm saying that people come on this site numerous times a day and flat out lie. They like to do that. If we start reporting incidents, we'd have to report a whole hell of a lot. Where do you draw the line. I mean people come on here and talk about illegal drug use/sale all of the time, no one ever thinks about reporting them. Don't try to argue that molestation is different, a crime is a crime in the eyes of the law. Accept the fact that sick fucks lie about the dumbest things and we have no way of verifying the truth and weeding out the crap stories.

    Its almost like AA or whatever, people like the fact that no one knows who they are, they feel safe that way. Getting stuff like this out and finding support here might actually be helping someone, but if we threaten to call the cops all of the time, people will no longer feel safe here. then they might really have absolutely no one to turn to.

    I know you are just trying to help, and you have a wonderful heart to be concerned, but I really don't think it is our place here to handle this with the police. Or if you are going to take on the task of doing it on your own, don't get the whole hippy comminuty involved. It isn't Skip's place to be calling the cops on people. It isn't yours either, but I can't really tell you what to do.

    Sorry if I don't make a lot of sense, I'm trying to type this at work without getting caught.
     
  8. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    No one said they were going to call the police or report it. The point is... MAYBE, JUST MAYBE this isn't the place for someone to come out about those things... maybe they should be going to people who are more entitled to be helping them.

    I don't see how that doesn't make sense. Nor do I see how you can call it easy to come online and tell a bunch of strangers such things... I sure couldn't but, hell, that's just me.
     
  9. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    And sorry I hope I don't sound like a bitch, I just... I don't know, I had the same reaction as lucy when I saw those topics... it made me a little sick to my stomach, and not because I'm a bitch, but because it makes me sad to hear that shit like this is happening to people and nothing is being done about it.
     
  10. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    Yeah, but you're missing the fact that this isn't just about someone talking like an asshole, but it's also about someone who has BEEN molested.

    It's NOT about free speech, for the last fucking time! No one is denying anyone free speech, all we're saying is that both cases are in need of a great deal of help.

    Fuck it, I'm done with this thread, I'm sick of trying to explain myself.

    If you don't get it, then so be it.
     
  11. lucyinthesky

    lucyinthesky Tie Dyed Soul

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    get a clue. I'm saying that this girl needs fucking help, i'm not telling her to shut up and limiting her 'free speech'....what a bunch of bullshit. way to misconstrue the whole message.


    i never said 'imagine someone came knocking at your door as a single woman alone in the middle of the night' i was just using a blunt comparisson...but thanks for the dramatic reaction. Stop watching tv; people are not all liars and scammers out to 'get you' or fuck your wife and stab your children. People need help some time. This girl obviously needed a place to vent with no face to show and no faces to stare back at her. All she needed was annonymous advice. I'm glad she got some. Who else she going to take it from?! Her 16 yr old friends who think their lives are bad because their black lipstick ran out? Put yourself in her shoes man, she's desperately crying for help. Whether it's real or not, do you want to turn your back knowing that it very well could be happening and you could have an impact? I'm saying i wish there was somewhere where this could be reported, so some sort of further investigation could be taken.

    'dont get involved with rape/molestation' yeah just turn a blind eye. You'll sleep better at night; as will the 16 year old who's twat is being licked by her middle aged step father.

    fucking ignorance disgusts me.
    thank you OJ for sticking up for me.
     
  12. lucyinthesky

    lucyinthesky Tie Dyed Soul

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    i know i sound like a huge bitch but trust me, i'm not trying to be, i'm just trying to get my point across. I don't want anyone lashing out at me because i used a harsh tone, so im appologizing in advance....though only half of me feels like i need to. :rolleyes:


    I've just seen shit go down. I had a best friend who was molested as a child and everyone ignored her. IGNORED A GIRL BEING MOLESTED. Can you imagine??? It made me sick to hear that. It wasn't until she ran away from home and got into some serious trouble when people finally woke up.

    I have had tons of bullshitty things happen to me like that i don't even know where to begin. I've never been molested by a family member.....which i'm very thankful for, but i was raped when i was 14, i've been molested and assaulted in my sleep, i've been very forcefully taken advantage off on a cold living room floor at 3am by someone i had trust and faith in while he shoved his tongue so far down my throat i couldn't even muffle a sound except to gag on it . I silently screamed out to the world to help me and very VERY few people did. I even had a teacher tell me to "shut the fuck up and get over my teenage hormones". I would bet i would be a much different, mentally healthier person today if i would have gotten the help i needed then.

    But thanks to the ignorance of the people i surrounded myself with, I'm going to go sit on my couch now and pick the scabs off my brain like a drug addict and stress and stress and scream and rage and beg and cry and plead and reason and destroy and lash out and plot revenge on the inside until i get gutt rot and explode with an ulcer.
     
  13. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    No problem, and thanks for wording it better than I ever could have.
     
  14. cutelildeadbear

    cutelildeadbear Hip Forums Gym Rat

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    Apples, calm down. First of all, you aren't being a bitch at all, you are passionate about what you believe in and I admire that in a person. I didn't say anything about free speech and I do agree that it would be ideal for them to have someone else to talk to but that doesn't always happen in the real world.

    And you obviously haven't been on the internet long or this site for long to be surprised that someone would come on here and talk about being molested. I'm most certainly not going to name anyone, but there have been countless people who have come on this site and talked about being molested and raped. There have been threads upon threads about it. It happens all of the time. I have told some very deep personal things here and I have gotten help from quite a few people on here. I'm sorry that we are not better equipped to handle it, but that isn't what this site is for. It has nothing to do with free speech in my opinion. It has to do with the fact that it is not any of our places to report anything. And someone did suggest reporting it, that is what the whole thread is about. Otherwise why would 911.com be the name of the thread? That is just my opinion. By all means if someone really believes whole heartedly that the authorities should be notified, then just do it. They can take it from there.

    And I'm not saying that people shouldn't be taken seriously, but after reading the post that the person made about rape, I personally believe that they are confused, and learning psychology (which would explain the terms being thrown around in his thread, and improperly used at that). I am fascinated by addiction. I studied it for a while back in my late teens early 20's. I watch movies and programs about it all of the time. I've thought about being addicted and honestly it scares me. The whole drug world boggles my mind and it just draws me in. But I don't do drugs. He is taking an interest in something that he doesn't understand and cannot explain. And the more people came on that thread and told him how sick he was, the more attention he got and the more he liked it and kept it going for everyone's entertainment. It's like a child who is constantly bad for the attention of a parent, even if it is negative attention, it is attention none the less. I don't have enough information to believe that he would really hurt someone. Actually, I think he is hurting and crying out for help (cliche I know, but I do believe this) and he used this as a way to get everyone's attention. Maybe his home life really sucks or he has no friends or he likes watching people argue on the internet (boy are there lots of people like that here).

    I didn't read the other thread about the person who was molested, so I can say much about it. Except that all we can do is give that person advice on what to do on their own. I still don't know if it is our place to get 911.com involved. Not because of free speech but because I'm not sure that is what the person wants. If it is, then by all means.
     
  15. Destro_the_punk

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    Freedom of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness precede, inherently must precede freedom of speech. If I allow someone to plot a murder on ground that I would be interfering with there freedom of speech, and someone looses a life, someone else a loved one, and the world the benefit of human potential, I've failed.

    Should someone have stepped in before 9/11 moved from freedom of speech?
    A girl is being molested by her step dad, I agree, something needed to be done.
    Someone wants to "do" a 12 year old, she needs to be protected.
     
  16. Sininabin

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    I already repsonded to this but a internet promblem made me have to rewrite so i'll keep it very short

    I would like to know what terms i used wrong because in the end i want to learn.

    I talk here becasue it allows to say everything i feel and done with out any pressure

    It is hard to be freinds with people when you know you could push them back by listing off your actions and thoughts so i do have sometimes a preety lonely experiance, but i have a lot of shallow freinds i have fun with so usally i enjoy the moment but their is no substance

    I do want some attension, usally by the women i pursue, but now its more of just hunger for skin, but i said it has been floating in my head and in the ends i am busy somewher else to invest myself to get it done

    I think its educational to see anyone argue anywhere to see how people present their ideas and take from both sides to get a better view of an issue

    don't understand who the addiction was directed to but i jsut want you understand my point of view and help me understand your thoughts
     
  17. interval_illusion

    interval_illusion Deceased

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    honestly sinnabin was reported to authorities by at least two and probably three people in the past. obviously no one cares so i dont know what to say.

    and to earlysunsets... he HAS acted on it in the past..... or so he said and that is why he was reported... he was in the process of "touching" a younger person on a daily basis.
     
  18. Apples+Oranjes

    Apples+Oranjes Bekkasaur

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    I've been on here for over a year, actually.
    I just never go on "true confessions" really

    I wasn't directing the free speech thing at you. It was mentioned a couple times before and after you posted.

    To me, it seems as if plenty of people on here have the definition of free speech GREATLY confused.
     
  19. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    The original poster took two threads and claimed that they needed legal intervention. Maybe the second one, I concede, needs to tell someone other than us. But, the first one is truly a matter of free speech.

    Think about it...how many of you here support NAMBLA?

    How many of you support NAMBLA's right to existence and freedom of speech?

    There is a profound difference.
     
  20. interval_illusion

    interval_illusion Deceased

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    yeah but when he mentioned before he was molesting a child... sorry.... i apprieciatte free speech but there are things more important then free speech. *shrugs*
     
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