5-MeO-DMT, heart rate problems with

5-MeO-DMT a psychedelic race horse?
So I insuflated about 10mgs give or take of this chemical. Within a few minutes I began to feel the initial effects. A certain relaxed heavy stoning sensation. A pronounced feelin of being really "inside" the body, a fatness within, feelin connected with the lower part of the body more so than usual, low to the ground. No visuals besides colors geting brighter,clearer and somewhat blurry. Facial expersion being one of a lazy over relaxed content person, my skin feeling thick and bloated/organic. I went to sit down on my bed to try and get comfurtable, the room began to feel like its getting smaller as I was getting expanded inside my body, feeling like im more "in it" now.

Time slowed down and it was hard to tell at what rate I was breathing, this being the most noticable effect. As soon as the effects really came on it was almost hard to tell if u should be exhaling or inhaling. A pause in the breath and u almost forget which to do first or which u did last, not that that realy matters. But it does if your heart rate starts to race, which it did. At a few moments of the experience I wasnt sure if it was realy my heart racing or if it just felt like that because I was overly sensitive of the body/heart, feeling realy inside the body. Tryin to keep a steady pace in breathing so my heart doesnt explode wasnt an easy task as time slowed down to a hault and there was this weird unability to tell how fast or slow ur breathing was. Or for that mater how fast time went.

I did some previous research on the chemical, reading reports of others. Also listened to Joe Rogan on his take on dmt and the meanin of life (http://www.joerogan.net/gallery/roganaudio). As others reported before him he too saw an alien/s talking to him as he came into another dimention. My experience was nothing of the like, although I did get into the "void" as others have mentioned. Although I'd describe it more of a fat blurry Isness. A perspective that u get from a detached ego,seing things for what they are, a certain quite deep nothingness. I've felt the "just is or nothingness" feeling before on other psychedelics but at the peak of this one I have to say this was the most pronounced one outa all of em. A void similar of ketamine except the visual of slowed frame rate wasnt there just the feeling that it produces. Seing things as "this is it, theres nothing more nothing less," just the being of.. Ketamine is actualy a bad comparison but theres something there as the feeling of just being that i got with dmt also had a certain visual that of a twisted ketamine cusin.

Tryin it for the 2nd time doing 2 little to really feel anything at first,made me do some more. I didnt realy peak like last time but I did get there somewhat. Again having heart rate problems, now being sure it wasnt just my paranoia or some weird psychologial effect of the drug I decide to give up on this substance. Theres defintly something to it as it only lasts about an hour and made me have a plus 3(alexander shuglin rate scale) or maybe even a + 4 experience that abrubtly drops down in scale. Reading A.Shuglins experiences with 5meodmt in Tihkal also assures me that there is heart racing problems with this substance. He too reports shakes and tightness in the chest. Being a sitter for someone that smokes a very high dose of this stuff he reports having to breath and pump his heart for him as that person just wasnt breathing at all...
does dosage play an important role to brake threw the heart palpitations, maybe a chemical with a steep dose curve?(I think not lol)

If u had experience with it whats ur take on it..

A bad and dangerious coked up psychedelic tryptamine or an extraordinary transdimentional comunication device to talk to elfs n aliens?

 

5-meo-dmt is NOT dmt.

 

I know 5-MeO-DMT is NOT DMT, in all casses I mentioned dmt in the post I was refuring to 5meodmt ...
Although, of what I know about DMT, it's about the same but with more of a visual aspect to the trip.
My guess is that nn,DMT has the same heart rate problems but thats just an asumption,maybe a new Poll is in order? Anyways any1 have any experience/problems with 5-MeO-DMT?

 

Coming up so fast is enough to make my heart race, but never to a worrying extent

 

5-meo-dmt is not really anything like dmt except as far as the rate of come up. So you saying crazy coked up psychedelic or transdimensional communication, you're talking about 5-meo in the first part of the sentence and n,n in the second part.

 

I don't know anything about N,N-dimethyltryptamine.
What are the average nndmt trips like?

 

Look at the erowid experience vaults under dmt.

 

have u had any 5-MeO-DMT trips in the past?

 

N,N-DMT is the way to meet entities etc, not 5-MeO

 

Aside from ayahuasca, no, I wouldn't bother. N,N is what you want.

 

from what I understand, 5-MeO produces a rush (an overwhelming one, not necessarily pleasant), and 5-HO-DMT (bufotenine) elevates the blood pressure/heart rate.
seek n,n-dmt instead.

 

jesus.... i snorted probably like 100 mg's of n,n tonight. fucked.

 

dmt hcl?

 

Not sure man... AFOAF extracted it from mimosa I think.

 

thats crazy man, tell us about ur trip....

 

Haha people like you make me laugh. "No I haven't tried it, it's not worth it." The all knowing oracle who doesn't need to experience to gain knowledge and opion.

 

Well at least I made someone smile. Now let me go stick my dick into that hole in the ground with fire ants coming out of it to gain the knowledge that this experience is going to suck.

Or maybe I will smoke some poison ivy. Going to be a seriously knowledgable oracle after tonight.

 

What a moron!!

 

Pleeeeaseee expand on that. Most people consider them basically the same thing, although 5-meo-dmt is just lighter on the visuals. I want to know how they are different, although comparing psychedelics is very hard. I've only done DMT.

 

5-meo is like dmt's cracked out meth addict cousin.