420 and Love

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Voyage, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    Just a thread to balance out the other threads of hostility and dis-harmony.

    Discuss...
     
  2. calgirl

    calgirl Senior Member

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    What does 420 mean?
     
  3. Ranger

    Ranger Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    It's N. Cal code for time to toke up deriving from Marin County criminal code for cannibus.
     
  4. calgirl

    calgirl Senior Member

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    yep.....had to look it up.

    ok 420 and sex is hot. Hows that for harmonious.
     
  5. Ranger

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    a sweet combo
     
  6. calgirl

    calgirl Senior Member

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    wonder what code they would use for that
     
  7. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    well maybe 489.

    But the topic was love.
     
  8. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    n cal code? i'm pretty sure 420 is international.
     
  9. calgirl

    calgirl Senior Member

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    lol or 469.....ok, love.......don't know that too well so it would be 400
     
  10. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    420+69=489
     
  11. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    And so what is the politics of love?
     
  12. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Voyage
    To have a debate there needs to be differing views, if you shy away from debate because you dislike the ‘hostility and dis-harmony’ of differing views then those with the loudest voices (or those paying people to shout for them) become powerful and get to influence events because they are the only opinions that get heard. Basically dis-harmony is a good thing it would be a terrible world if everyone had to think exactly the same.

    To me some ideas need to be opposed or at the least discussed and sometimes strongly opposed and vigorously discussed.

    In fact since you are asking us to discuss your idea you are acknowledging that there maybe differing views so….
     
  13. Peace&Unity

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    oh this is akward

    420= number of marijuana.
     
  14. calgirl

    calgirl Senior Member

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    ah, clever
     
  15. Ranger

    Ranger Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    420 is now international but first came into hip use in the late '70s/early '80s in Marin County in northern California. I was there and saw it cross the Golden Gate into San Francisco...
     
  16. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    Agree whole-heartedly.

    No Sir, in fact I am not asking anyone to discuss... rather... offering an alternative.
    But before this gets all serious...

    I say... get high and make love works better than drink and fight.

    Does that need vigorous discussion? :) Or light hearted commentary?
     
  17. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    You do know what 71 is, yes?
     
  18. calgirl

    calgirl Senior Member

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    thinking thinking.........no
     
  19. rjhangover

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    Do you know why it's called 420? It has to do with April 20th which is.........
     
  20. odonII

    odonII O

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    What?


    Known Myths

    Myth: Police dispatch code for smoking pot is 420.
    Fact: The number 420 is not police radio code for anything, anywhere. Checks of criminal codes suggest that the origin is neither Californian nor federal. For instance, California Penal Code 420 defines as a misdemeanor the hindrance of use of public lands. Plus considering pot is a drug, the code would be possession of drugs, not smoking pot. I'm not sure if the act of smoking pot is even a separate crime, let alone dispatch code.

    Myth: There are approximately 420 active chemicals in marijuana.
    Fact: There are approximately 315 active chemicals in marijuana. This number goes up and down depending on which plant is used.

    Myth: April 20th is National Pot Smokers Day.
    Fact: Well, it is now; but that wasn't the origin.

    Myth: April 20th is Hitler's birthday.
    Fact: Yes, it is his birthday. But, as 420 started out as a time, not a date, his birthday had nothing to do with it.

    Myth: April 20th is the date of the Columbine school shootings.
    Fact: This happened after the term was already in use.

    Myth: 4:20 is tea time for pot-smokers in Holland.
    Fact: Tea time in Holland is at 5:30 pm, or is it 2:30 pm? Seems no one is quite sure when the wonderful people of Holland drink their tea.

    The Origin Revealed
    According to Steven Hager, editor of High Times, the term 420 originated at San Rafael High School, in 1971, among a group of about a dozen pot-smoking wiseacres who called themselves the Waldos, who are now pushing 50. The term was shorthand for the time of day the group would meet, at the campus statue of Louis Pasteur, to smoke pot. Intent on developing their own discreet language, they made 420 code for a time to get high, and its use spread among members of an entire generation. While our teens feel that they know something we don't, you can let them in on the fact that it was your generation that came up with the numbers.

    A quote from one of the Waldos in the High Times article states, "We did discover we could talk about getting high in front of our parents without them knowing by using the phrase 420." Fortunately, your teenagers will not have that same option as their parents too grew up in a drug culture and should pretty much know better.

    Whatever!

    Simply put, 420 is a symbol of cannabis and its teen culture. Today, April 20th events are international and 4:20 pm has become sort of a world wide "burn time". It certainly doesn't matter too much where the term came from because for us parents, it's a flag, a warning sign that our teenagers may be into something that could harm their future. When you see the symbol 420, be aware of what it represents, for more read How to Raise a Drug-Free Teen.

    Why is the 420 term so important to the pot smoking culture?

    It is something to opine over the 420 debate when they are getting high or helps them find a time to do so. The drug culture likes to have it's 'thing' so it can cement together as a group. If your teen is drawn to this debate, you should talk to him about marijuana and check for the warning signs of drug use.
     

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