4 weeks

Discussion in 'Grow Room Pix and Journals' started by Bob_Bong, Jan 24, 2005.

  1. Bob_Bong

    Bob_Bong Member

    My plant is now exactyl 4 weeks old, it's on about the 7th node under 450w of compact flouro's

    up until the weekend she's been doing amazing, but over the weekend i noticed her start to droop a bit.. then this morning, i noticed it again..

    look.

    anyway, i don't know if it's really that bad, the branches seem to be pushing those leaves that are drooping outta the way(seeing how they grow right out from under it)

    what's your impression of my 4 week old plant? good? bad?
     
  2. GuySmiley

    GuySmiley Member

    How often do you water?
     
  3. Bob_Bong

    Bob_Bong Member

    as often as needed? sometimes every 3 - 4 days with occasional misting between that.

    is it possible i'm watering to much?

    i have a heater and a fan in my setup, so the soil drys up pretty fast.
     
  4. Bob_Bong

    Bob_Bong Member

    lately i've been watering it a little more often.. every 2-3 days.. 2L bottle split between 4 plants?

    my uncle is also assisting me with growing, he's an experienced gardener and 54 years old.. w00t for elders!

    anyway... i also just think it's the plant.. the leaves that are wilting the most are going to be pushed out of the way by a stem in a weeks time so maybe this is just normal?
     
  5. b1v2w3

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    How big is the pot in which it is planted? Judging by the thumb in the picture could be that the pot is too small and she's getting root bound? b1
    I water mine from the bottom: let it soak up from the pan into which they sit and usually I see the soil on top get just damp looking within 24 hrs and the pan has dried up in the same time and then I wait 5-6 days before I repeat. I have 5 plants in 4G pots and they take about 5G water with this method. Hope this gives you some ideas. b1
     
  6. Bob_Bong

    Bob_Bong Member

    Root bound she was, bigger pot she's now in...

    the "pot" i have her in now, is a makeshift 12 beer box (Rickards Red)

    L - 10"
    W - 7.5"
    H - 9"

    total volume = 675" cubic inches?

    i think i'm righ ton that..

    will i be okay to grow say.. a meter in a pot that size?
     
  7. b1v2w3

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    I think in metric. 675cubic inches= around 11,000cc A gallon is around 4000cc so a 4G pot is around 12,000cc so you're close to what I use. And I use LST to let them grow no taller then 2 feet, that way the tap root doesn't need to want to go too deep but will branch out more throughout the soil and fill the pot. b1
     
  8. Bob_Bong

    Bob_Bong Member

    awesome, thanks for the info
     
  9. GuySmiley

    GuySmiley Member

    Very good B1v!!! See how when you do a little research, you can help others? Good call on the rootbound issue. That would have been my next guess, but you beat me to the punch.
     
  10. b1v2w3

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    Thanks for the compliment GS. Gathering knowledge is one thing, using it brings it own unique kind of reward. BobB, let me amend my calculation some, just ate lunch with sandwich bread dipped in melted cannabutter and that fogged over the calculating module somewhat. A gallon is 4 quarts obviously and a quart is just about a liter so a 4 gallon pot holds 16,000cc, NOT 12,000 And then I saw an old sticker on the side of one and it says that it holds 17quarts. GuySmiley shows in his Shiva Thread his LST method and lets them not grow taller then 2 foot. That's 24 inches which is 60cm so you're a little tall to let them grow to 1 meter. Keep us posted. b1
     
  11. Bob_Bong

    Bob_Bong Member

    Thanks b1. the strain i have is estimated a meter to a meter and a half. realistically, i'm probably only going to grow to about 2-3 feet.

    lighting, space, pot size, experience.. all these things come together to kinda thwart my efforts abit.

    ah well, for a first grow i'll be satisfied if my plants live past preflowering.
     
  12. b1v2w3

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    You can keep the height regulated to 2 feet if you want by using LST tydown technique. Look thru the Shiva thread. b1

    [Everyone interested in knowing how cannabis use affects the brain should read the article in the Dec. 2004 edition of the Scientific American: The drugs inside EVERYONE'S brain]
     
  13. Bob_Bong

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    so 4 weeks and 4 days into her adventure, and she loves the new box i got her in (it's make shift but it'll do).. she's starting to show signs of preflowering .. the other's are not far behind as you can see..

    she's starting to show signs of nute needing, thanks to the shiva thread and b1's photo's.. i'm able to tell the slight fading at the tips of the leaves are cause by lack of nutes. i'm off to get some today.

    ya, it's a bit crowded in my grow area, but that'll change when i find the male (i know there's at least one i can feel it) i think it's the tall one second from the right..
     
  14. Bob_Bong

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    p.s i dunno what those white things on the pic are, but they're not on the plant(i guess it was the cam?)

    also, you can see some discolouration in the lower leaves, i'm pretty sure it's from the shock when i transplanted.. the second time(lessons learnt for next grow) it only looks superficial
     
  15. Mud_Hunter

    Mud_Hunter Member

    I like your light setup...much better than 1 large light...what brand/type of veg light are u using BB?
     
  16. Bob_Bong

    Bob_Bong Member

    they're compact flouro's equivalent to 150w white's. 8700 lummes total, they kick out just enough heat and lots of light (god damn they're bright) right now all the plants are on 18/6 i'm probably going to wait until the youngest plant (2weeks) is old enough to flower.. so 6-7 weeks i'll put all 3 plants (because i know one is a male) into 12/12 and they can all flower together. only, one plant will be slightly more mature.. it'll be cool!

    i can hardly wait
    go go gadget time excelleration!
     
  17. Bob_Bong

    Bob_Bong Member

    I just added another 150w cool white bulb bringing it to a good 600watts now...

    I've been reading some other sites and boards, and some people throw the plants into flowering when they are 6 or 7" tall... my big one is almost 10" , and i'm wondering if i should start flowering sooner than i originally planned?

    hmmm...
     
  18. b1v2w3

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    Nice setup indeed.For veg I use about one meter square (40x40 inches) floor space which holds 6-8 4G pots and light it up with 2 MH @ 250W each. That's 500W they produce on average 20,000 lumens. That's 40,000 lumens for nearly the same wattage. They produce much more heat and you can't have them closer then 18" to the plant tops unless you have a fan etc. And instead of 18/6 I go 24hrs. straight.
    Flowering is similar in all aspects except the bulbs are HPS, the lumens they put out are 25,000 to 29,000 each and I reduce the time to 12/12.
    Keep us posted. b1

    [Everyone interested in knowing how cannabis use affects the brain should read the article in the Dec. 2004 edition of the Scientific American: The drugs inside EVERYONE'S brain]
     
  19. Bob_Bong

    Bob_Bong Member

    thank b1,
    for flowering, what's the deal with the red spectrum light? will i be able to just combo the light i have now and a red fluoro on 12/12?

    I also learnt that the yellow spots on the leaves of the one plant is due to high PH level in the soil.. i'll need to find some PHdown.. and maybe get a PH tester ?

    7 is neutral right?
     
  20. b1v2w3

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    In nature flowering occurs late in the solar year, at which time the light spectrum has a more reddish cast (due to angle of infall into atmosphere) and in our indoor growing we try to simulate that by adjusting the lightspectrum, the amount of time of light and boost the plant's physiology by supplying it nutrients needed more for flowering then for structure building (vegging). Which is to say P in the NPK measure of a fertilizer's makeup is shifted to a higher value, such as NPK 10/10/10 becomes NPK 10/30/10 in then "flowering formula". A little more then you asked for?. b1
     

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