I am trying to find out more about this chemical. 4-AcO-DMT is the acetylated form of psilocin- which is found in magic mushrooms. Idealy id like to know how to convert psilocin into 4-AcO-DMT, which from what I have read is supposed to be a resonably easy procedure, essentialy It would mean exposing the psilocin to stong acidic or alkaline conditions, similar to the way that morphine is converted ito heroin. The advantage of having 4-AcO-DMT is that it is much more stable and less prone to oxidation than psilocin, which breaks down fairly quickly. Also The body converts the 4-AcO-DMT back into psilocin so essentialy produced the sam effects although it is meant to last longer Any advice, info or comments are welcome.
just a FYI the effects of 4-aco-dmt are unique, and not the same effects as 4-ho-dmt. they are very similar, even past the usual tryptamine similarities, in fact they are quite close, but still different i think. 4-aco is much less "chaotic" and much "simpler" and "cleaner". this could be a change in the person who took them though. speaking from experience.
That could also be minor alkaloids (like baeocystitn) in the mushrooms, too. Ever taken pure psilocybin/psilocin powder? Me neither. It bet it'd be much cleaner. And OP, I'm kinda interested in this one, too. I'm betting you could make a fairly simple mushroom extract, then convert it to 4-AcO-DMT before cleanup, making things MUCH simpler, since you wouldn't have to worry about air so much.
Im not particualy interested in the mild differences between Psilocin and 4-AcO-DMT, the real advantage to having 4-AcO over psilocin is it can be stored in a pure form without breaking down. Anyhow, any extraction done on mushrooms would also contain psilocybin, so we are not discussing psilocin or 4-AcO in their pure forms. My friend told me that the acetylation of psilocin occours druring the "Lemon Tek" method, whereby dried,powdered mushrooms are soaked in lemon juice before consuming. This makes sense as the lemon tek method produces a stronger trip that kicks in faster (these are characteristics of 4-AcO-DMT- which I think is absorbed 10-15% faster than psilocin and is more potent by weight.) From what I understand, an extraction of mushroom alkaloids and conversion to 4-AcO-DMT would not be particualy difficult. I am not opting for super refined pure crystals, just a crude extract would do me fine.
allow me to just post a few links that may be helpful to this discussion. http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/psilocin.extraction.html ^ easy extraction of Psilocin http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cach...etylpsilocin+convert&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nz ^ easy process for extraction and synthesis of 4-CaO-DMT (Calcium psilocybate) http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=2523 ^ This is a very informing thread, which descibes how to do it.
i feel the exact same differences you've stated. i hear it's pretty easy to push 4-aco-dmt to 4-ho-dmt [i once read a simple tek on bluelight that involved not much other than just basifying it]. i've been meaning to compare the effects of of 4-aco to the effects if 4-ho[by itself]
yea. i should get some more 4-aco-dmt this summer, and i'll certainly do this...assuming the 4-aco->4-ho push is as easy as i remember reading
Yeah, I should have had some 4-AcO-DMT by about a week ago, but there's some Canadian dude who seems to just be still asleep in bed, for about two weeks. Wish I just had an unlimited supply of every psychoactive chemical known to man. But really there is because life is long and unlimited connections to be made. Though no predictions can be had since reality constantly changes, and we could all wake up dead tomorrow.
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