2ci & 2cc

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I have tried 2ci in decent doses and never really got any visuals. 2cc lacks visuals too unless you do a high dosage. Combining them both is a pretty cool combo. I have 2 experiences with the combo in very high doses (100 mg 2cc and 72 mg 2ci together the first time a similar but slightly smaller dose the second time). The visuals from that were very strong, but only for about an hour and then i mellowed down a lot, though was still really enjoyable. Personally, I like 2cc over 2ci if you're just going to do 1 because 2cc causes almost no nausea unlike 2ci, and ive never gotten any visuals at all form 2ci where as i have from 2cc (when i'm taking them separately).

 

I've only done 50mg 2c-c orally and it was pretty tame, but I've heard you need to dose way higher than that for the better effects. i've seen a few people rave about 2c-c and 2c-i is many peoples favorite 2c. i got pretty bad nausea on the comeup of 2c-c but once the peak came it was gone, so maybe have some ginger ale or something.

 

Plug it!

2c-c is way more fun that way. A nice short psychedelic ride with a more pleasant body high compared to 2c-i.

 

You're in the minority there, not getting visuals from 2c-i. It's not unheard of, but it's definitely uncommon to not get any visuals and you're obviously some sort of unprecedented hard head if you need 72mg 2c-i to get off...

I have a lot of experience with 2c-i but none with 2c-c so I can only tell you what I've read/heard of C. 2c-i is pretty stimulating but 2c-c is supposed to be even more so, perhaps in a different way. 2c-i gives you a lot of undirected building energy on the comeup that can make you feel edgy or overwhelmed but once you settle in toward the peak, it's all gravy. Visuals don't really start to kick in until about 2hrs after dosing for me. It's pretty clear-headed for the most part, every once in a while you'll get swept up in some crazy ideas but you remain in your own mind for the most part. It's good for socializing, as it lacks depth and profundity and is closer to a candy psychedelic. The body load is moderately intense at times, you can expect a lot of jaw grinding and muscle tension/twitching but the nausea can be combated with a few pieces of candied ginger right after dosing.

I've been on the beach at night in late winter-early spring with 2c-i and it was alright, I tend to get irritable and have that feeling of not knowing what to do with myself so it wasn't as great as I was expecting, but everyone's different. I definitely would not go to the beach during the day on 2c-i, the heat and light combined with the body load would be way too uncomfortable. 2c-i is very dehydrating to me so I suggest keeping water on hand at all times. Toward peak, my body seems to want to purge all fluids and I begin peeing and sweating profusely even if it's cold. I usually get a UTI the day after from all the dehydration, but I'm the only person I know of that this happens to so I wouldn't worry about it too much... just keep in mind it's a possible side effect.

What are your speculative doses?

 

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^^That's a hell of a lottery, I would at least need to separate my choices into trypts and phens

But yeah, 20 is good for 2c-i or 2c-e first times (again, not sure about the 2c-c I think that's generally dosed higher) but anyway, looking forward to know what you end up going with and how it goes! Good journeys.

 

in terms of intensity i would rate those 2c-e, 4aces, dpt. if you wanna do it in order of crazier experience. i wouldn't do either of those last 2 in public, and only low dose 2c-e.

 

can't speak from experience on plugging 2c-c, but nasal 2c-c is really fun..the nasal administration is pretty painful, but oral is just weak. in theory, plugging it should be about the same as insufflation

 

from everything i've read, 2cc is supposed to be the most relaxing 2cx of the bunch

 

I haven't tried 2c-c nasal. I tend to stay away from snorting 2c-x

But I think it would compare alot to plugging it.


...and I can vouch for 2c-c being much more relaxing than 2c-i. I haven't done 2c-i in a long time because I feel the substance is too speedy/uncomfortable for a psychedelic experience. I feel it's overshadowing the whole experience in a bad way.

 

I received some 2C-I recently and I must say I am a big fan. And that is coming from a heavy opioid and amphetamines user.

 

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IME, mixing 2c's is like mixing rum and whiskey... delicious

ETA: I would try them each on their own first... but you probably already know that.

 

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2cb and 2ci is next on my list. Still want to properly try 2ce and 2ci as well. Maybe one day, 2cb and 2ct7? haha

 

Mmmmnomnomnom... I think I would like 2c-b and 2c-e, I find 2c-i to be a bit "edgy" in every way but the fluidity of b and e should synergize beautifully together. Maybe like 30mg b, 10-15mg e. I would definitely like the b to be the dominant chem but just a little 2c-e to give it some oomph. I don't know, but I will be getting enough b soon to try both combos :mickey:

 

^^^what do you think about combining 2ce (or -b) with LSD? i've pondered about that combo, but worry about the -e tainting the LSD trip with its gut rot. LSD is pretty perfect all by itself (or with a little cannabis)

 

the only 2c i'd combine with L is bee. nothing else is good enough lol, except maybe t7, which is already very acid-like. bee and e would probably go together very well actually, but only because i don't think there's anything bee would not make a million times better.

 

This is very strange, sweetBlasphemy seems to think that salvia should be illegal to protect stupid people from themselves, but will consume, and give advice on consuming, psychedelic amphetamines... How about how stupid people could hurt themselves? why don't we write our senators to hurry up and outlaw them, because THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

 

I don't get visuals on 2ci hardly (however, I havent really fully tried 2ci at a decent dose by itself, only with 2cc), except when I combined it with 2c-c. However, on 2ce I get very minor visuals at 20 mg, only if i relax my eyes, pretty good visuals at 40 mg, and amazing visuals at 60mg. If you're looking for a visual psychedelic, 2ce will not disappoint. I have some dpt but I havent tried it yet, though I hear it is really intense, similar to n,n-DMT. i dont know why mr. writer thinks 4aco-dmt is so intense but it wasn't very intense for me (even at high doses not very visual for me). Very similar to shrooms but seemed to have more body high and be less visual to me. Of course everyone is different so who knows what your experience will be.