2ce 2ci and 2ct2 storage

How long can you store these chemicals for? And what is proper storage?

Also, how does t2 compare to the others?

I felt like ci was way less visual and more of a mind thing than ce.

Also for dosages I've been doing like
16mg ce
20mg ci (maybe I should do more to get more visuals?)

What would be a comparable dosage of t2 to get the same intensity of a trip of like 16mg of ce. I know it's all opinion based - I'm just getting some ideas for how I'd do this.

Also, how would you compare the visuals between t2 and ce.

 

I think 2c-t-2 is the best of the ones you named. They are all really stable. Put them in glass vials wrap em up in tinfoil and throw em in a freezer.

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
yep nuff said lol. i gotta get my hands on some t2 soon

 

Is freezer storage really necessary? I live with someone who wouldn't like to see chems in the freezer when they go in there. They're stable enough that a glass vial and cool/dry place would suffice, correct?

Let's say you do decide to throw it in the freezer. Then transport them somewhere else. Wouldn't a drastic change in temp be bad for these chems. One time I had lsd and put it in tinfoil/sealed in a plastic bag/in freezer. I then went camping and tried to take it a few days later. It lost all its potency. I really think the temp change had something to do with it. I know lsd is a tryptamine, just curious...

 

LSD isn't a tryptamine its an ergotamine with partial tryptamine structure. It also has phenethyalmine structure. I have kept lsd in a freezer for a year and it stayed good.

Freezer for these phens is not needed probably they are quite stable.

 

binary would the drastic temp change do anything though? should u gradually adjust like put it in the fridge for a little bit then on to room temp? im interested in this as well

 

i've stored it in the fridge. it only warms up when i eat it.

i don't think it's necessary to put phens in the freezer.

 

amber glass vials block out UV light.

 

These temperature changes aren't really anything to worry about... especially with these phens, they are quite stable.

Whenever you take the vials out of the freezer you may want to allow them to return to room temperature before opening them. This will take awhile for the entire vial and its contents to warm up. The reason you may want to do this is because if there is any moisture in the warmer air outside of the freezer, it may condense if it comes into contact with something cold (like the chem or the inside of the vial).

 

I was under the impression that phenethylamines are very resistant to temperatures of extremes for up to say 10-15yrs. I thought that they were actually the most durable of any class of drugs.

 

yeah, its the tryptamines that have more prevalent degradability issues...

 

probably true, but some people might like to play it safe and store 'em in the fridge.

 

ive never kept any of my phens in the freezer and never had any problems with them degrading. i just keep em in the drawer in the original bag. seems to work fine.

as for dosages, i usually do ~30mg 2c-i and 2c-t-7. 2c-e i only need like ~20mg. idk how t-2 dosages compare sorry

 

Yea if you up the 2ci dose you should get quite a lot of visuals.

However some people just don't get visuals from 2ci. I personally almost always get them.

 

I had 2c-t-2 stored outside of a freezer for around three years and it slightly degraded, turned more yellow and left me with a stronger body load, but for the most part still got me just as high. I bet if I washed it with something to clean it up that it would be mint condition again with minor weight loss. So freezer isn't needed, but I bet if I kept it in the freezer for that long it wouldn't have degraded at all. If I had to throw out a number I would estimate that it degraded by about 1% every year when not stored in the freezer. I am not sure what it degraded into, but it was yellow and had a more sulfurous quality to it than normal, so maybe the 4 position was breaking off and it was degrading into some sulfur or something. It did significantly increase the body load, and turned from creamy white to off white yellow.

 

I kept my 2c-e dissolved in some alcohol and kept it in the fridge seemed to hold steady for several months with out any noticeable degradations

 

Phenethylamines do not degrade fast, at least noticeable, if you don't expose them to substances with high reaction potential (i.e. oxygen, flouride) and environmental conditions which catalyze reactions (i.e. heat, UV-rays).
Just like most other chemicals. So that means --> cool, airtight, dark place

On a sidenote I must add that I have yet to find a noticeable potency reduction in my 3 year old cubensis laying on top of my cupboard! I really do not understand why people always fear the loss of Tryptamines. But maybe my shrooms have always had a considerably higher amount of Psilocybin in them, which alledgedly does not degrade as fast as Psilocin does.

 

^^^that's something i was just wondering about the other day...if tryptamines are so fragile, then why aren't shrooms handled with any extra care? i've never heard of anyone storing shrooms in the freezer. maybe being inside the shroom somehow protects the chem from degredation?

 

the flesh of the mushroom helps protect it a lot

 

Personally,

Graduated amber glass (graduated syringe still a must!), dissolved in a known quantity of distilled water. All of the popular phens have kept sans degradation for 3+ years. Temp fluctuation between 55-75 F.