tried it the other day at a party, It was one of the most enveloping, powerful psychedelics i have ever had the good fortune to enjoy. Seems to have anti depressant qualities. only maybe deeper. its like, all the shit about the universe you forget when LSD wears off, those revelations STICK with you on 2c-P. Maybe the acid i got was always sorta weak, but i just might like this shit better. try it if you have the opportunity, just be ready for a long trip. 3 hour come up, 4 and half hours to the peak, 4-8 hour plateau, 4-8hours coming down (depending on your dose, research says this one can last for days if you accidentally take a significant overdose) very effective, not so much recreational, but extreme euphoria will be enjoyed after you untangle yourself.
Sounds like a nice 2cp trip. You definitely have revelations about your life and the world on that substance, at least I do. It can be very recreational after you do it a few times. I like to take it at festivals so I eat less drugs and am still high for ~12 hours or so. When I ate 24mg the duration didn't change, it was just stronger. It won't last for days I don't think. Glad you have such a good experience, 2cp is one of my favorite compounds.
Never really got much of anything too revelatory from 2cp but it does have some decent CEV's and stuff. Very interesting to read that you prefer it to LSD.
I entirely agree. Not that I dislike LSD (and it is definitely a deeper, more multi-layered psychedelic than 2c-p), but about the way that revalations stick with you so well on 2c-p trips. Maybe it has something to do with its unique duration/timeline. Maybe that helps with trip integration. I had one of the most important realizations of my life on 2c-p and always remembered it fully and simplified my understanding of it so I could apply it to my life. I have found this sort of experience to be extremely unusual when taking psychedelics. The temporary feeling of epiphany is always there, but lasting and beneficial understanding seems to come only with the greatest, most glowing experiences. Now that I've gone through a bit of education, I have realized that my 2c-p fueled revalation -- a true understanding of the fact that I know nothing -- is philosophical canon. Plato said it first. But, despite the fact that my fellow students can read and interpret Plato, they may never have a true understanding of the psychedelic gravity of the statement: "I know that I know nothing." I would never go as far as to say I prefer it to LSD, but I certainly think 2c-p is a very worthwhile psychedelic. I'm happy you had a good time.
I personally don't get too much insight from 2CP, other than feeling a personal connection with others, and a warm feeling associated with it, which I compare to a slight "non-speedy MDMA". One thing I found extremely unfathomable was its potential for artistic value. The visuals are very powerful and distinct, but somehow unsurprising. On 2CP I feel as though the visuals do not effect me if I do not want them to, and I can play with the direction each piece of the puzzle goes, if you catch my drift. For example: a strong reoccurring theme on 2CP I got were rooms completely rearranging themselves, not unlike hedgeclipper's amazing signature picture. Things like hallways and doors seem to go beyond at some points, as if hallways that are meters long appear much much longer, with twists, multiple doors and tangents. Then, I can view it as though it were a 2D kindergardener's painting on the wall, and again in jawdropping 3D. I find these views of the world amazing, and somewhat controllable (when on a lighter wave of the trip). Sometimes they just occur in the background by default. It comes down so beautifully for me, because I can have moments of extreme relaxation, it's pure bliss at the "cheesed out" phase at the end of a trip. Good for starting on a mental "clean slate" if it were, and allow your mind to wander and create, far from the binds of your body if you imagine hard enough. Perhaps the bringing of people together was the insight of 2CP for me. I don't really like it more than LSD just for the fact that it takes a long time to kick in, it's hard to get the dosage right, and it just doesn't blow my mind the way Lucy does. However, I loved it as a mescaline analouge because some of the aspects were there, it was harder to get into a scary mindfuck rut, and the body load was fairly easy going (again, when dosed right). Good report, I'm glad you enjoyed it! I've never been a real big psychedelics-at-parties type guy, but 2CP is probably one of the psychs I'd plan on going to party on. Peace out!
The room was so crazy I couldn't get up much, but sitting there was amazing. We threw a halloween party and my house that was pretty crazy. At the time we had a grinch Xmas tree with all my scary masks all over it like decorations, my walls and celing were covered in fluorescent graffiti, and we had a buch of crazy lights over the pool table. Very intense, but fucking awesome. :mickey: I did abut the same dose at a festival a few years ago, I was trucking through the woods with no equilibrium. It was the most fun 10 hour walk in the woods ever. I thought I was going to fall in the dirt and drowned, the type of experience that you would have to be there to understand.