Does anyone have any first hand experience with this compound? I was recently given a few caps, there's very little information on the net and I hate feeling like I'm going into things without being prepared. Anyone? Thanks.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 2c-hot-7? are you sure you don't just mean hot-7 which is a prodrug that degrades into 2c-t-7? hot-7 was going around for a bit, as far as I am aware multiple batches of it were tested and confirmed to in fact be 2c-t-7 being sold as hot-7 for whatever reasons. Although it is possible one of the batches from china was really hot-7. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKbtGxhCV2WbpR1U0RAnvdAJwP1oKCyqLY/6aqzCHKTwDOR9JewwCfct1e rLq/PKn/NQvK+44Q17i4J50= =ED6e -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Yeah, 2C-HOT-7 and HOT-7 are the same thing, I believe. Still not much help though, haha. Also, this is 100% 2C-HOT-7, not 2C-T-7. I don't mess around with unreliable sources.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 if it is really hot-7 it will have the exact same effects as 2c-t-7 but require a slightly higher dose. hot-7 turns into 2c-t-7 in the body. Hot-7 is pretty much just a way to get around 2c-t-7 being illegal in countries with out analog laws. Even if it is pure hot-7, by this point it is probably 2c-t-7 mixed with hot-7 anyways because I think is slowly degrades into 2c-t-7 outside of the body as well. I would take a bit higher dosage than I would for 2c-t-7, but other than that its pretty much 2c-t-7 regardless of if it is hot-7 or really 2c-t-7 in the first place. Only difference being hot-7 is an analog and 2c-t-7 is specifically scheduled. but when you eat hot-7 it becomes 2c-t-7 anyways. Sneaky prodrug analogs ;-). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKbwKHhCV2WbpR1U0RArIfAJ9QhiLz03XVkz/l4GMMgCLOdgpYxACfU9LZ MOOE68m30k+kr9oMnslOV1I= =MBe5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ps: it might also have a slightly slower onset than 2c-t-7 because it may take bit to turn into 2c-t-7, but I think it is active of its own accord to a certain extent anyways. So actually it is pretty much going to be exactly 2c-t-7 effects wise, but it might be very slightly different (and have heard reports it feels very slightly different, although that batch turned out to be 2c-t-7 anyways so was prob placebo effect lol), and it might take a tad bit longer to kick it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKbwO1hCV2WbpR1U0RAo6+AJ9gZzB18TeTlNTiRYnjecpXAL8RTQCfXGs4 RXlceCgi7VNCdSRiRVtlohw= =XQCD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
pihkal says "AN N-HYDROXY AMINE HAS APPROXIMATELY THE SAME POTENCY AND THE SAME ACTION AS ITS N-HYDROGEN COUNTERPART. " hot7 is a n-hydroxy 2ct7 is the n-hydrogen couterpart Maybe (HOT7) reduces to (2ct7) in the body, and the latter is the intrinsically active agent. Maybe 2ct7 oxidizes to HOT7 in the body, and the latter is the intrinsically active agent. Either direction is reasonable, and there is precedent for each. . .The interesting 2C-T-X series has provided a number of amines that are amenable to N-hydroxylation, and this is the first of them. And, after all, if you put a hydroxy (HO) group on a thio material (T), you have a HOT compound. So, as far as nomenclature is concerned, the family of N-hydroxy analogues of N-H amines is known as the HOT family. How does HOT-7 compare with 2C-T-7? They are almost identical. The same range of dose (centering on 20 milligrams) and if anything, perhaps slightly less long lived. Lets try some other N-hydroxys! but shulgin does seem to make inference based on structure like 4acodmt is compered directly to psilocin, more so than on forums like this, so i'm just saying there are probably some differences
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 if shulgin reports it has a shorter duration than 2c-t-7 I would guess that is a sign that 2c-t-7 actually oxidizes to hot-7 in the body, because 2c-t-7 would probably have its own effect profile and then turn into the effect profile of hot-7 as it metabolizes, which would lead to a longer lasting high versus directly taking hot-7 where you will only get the effect profile of hot-7. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKbwS8hCV2WbpR1U0RAmCGAJ9HoRyVCSah4rG2S8LbLvKOqAw29ACfYwq2 gRPfo/mx3y2lFtdgX9BA5xo= =ncWS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hmm..I had heard it wasn't that great...I guess that was just another instance of anecdote not being reliable...(I know...go figure right!) Either way, let us know how it goes.
