Well, yesterday I had my second 2C-E trip. Hungover. Bad idea. However, I was not miserable at any point, and I was in a great deal of physical pain and nausea for about 12 hours. And I puked on the beach. If I wasn't hungover NONE of that would've happened. ANYWAY. Me and a friend of mine went down to Seadside Heights for 3 days on Wenesday. A lot of fun and blah blah. So the last time I had done it before Friday was Monday night. On Monday I took about 35mg total. The night before I had done 75mgs of 4-AcO-DMT, and 2 nights before that I had done 25mgs. This time, with the 4 days in between, it was stronger for sure. So I woke up and skipped breakfast (and I was hungover) like an idiot, not even thinking about it. I didn't FEEL hungover. I had a very slight headache and that thing that happens to taste when you're hungover and it's really annoying, lol. So I somewhat carelessly (having lost my fear of being tortured by it) dropped around 35-40mgs onto a sugar cube. Needless to say that motherfucker half disintegrated, lol. I ate the cube and licked up the plate, knowing I was gonna be in for an awesome day. I dosed at 1pm or close enough. It was pretty nasty as it was last time. Quite bitter (not nearly as bad as DXM though) but with the sugar it wasn't too hard. We hung out at the house for awhile (he didn't dose, he's not big on many drugs but he's cool with me doing it). We left and about an hour after I had taken the stuff (shortly after we got to the beach) I became very nauseous. It was very atypical nausea though. It sucked, but I didn't care. It did not bother me nearly as much as nausea usually does. I could still move around and be in a good, non-annoyed mood. However I felt it was pretty annoying despite not causing me distress. So I forced myself to puke in a hole I dug in the sand. It was a pretty decent amount for having not eaten anything. After I puked, I didn't feel much better, but I felt good enough that I would not have to puke again. I noticed I was tripping pretty hard at this point. 2C-E's visuals are nice, but they're nothing compared to DOC's which I considered to be the psychedelic with the best visuals I have done by far. Maybe equal with LSD though. LSD had pretty amazing visuals. So anyway, all the sand was moving and swirling around randomly. The clouds were fantastic to watch like this. The water was also quite entertaining. Swimming was fun as well, but not too different than being sober. The visuals don't seem to stand out if you aren't paying attention. They're certainly there but sometimes they can be forgotten. It's not colorful at all either. Actually I think it's the first psychedelic I've done that lacked really any color in the visuals. Not to make it sound like it was lame. I had a great day. The pain in my stomach was quite bad (like nausea thats ALMOST bad enough to make you puke, but as I said I was too high to really care). I tried puking a few more times but the nausea came and went randomly a lot, but the pain in my stomach and really entire torso prevailed throughout the day. What's the absolute best thing about this substance? NOBODY could tell that I was on something. Me and him were staying with his dad and step-mom and 2 little sisters (both 16). I was extremely chill with EVERYONE. I normally have a decent amount of social anxiety but that completely disappeared. I was talking with the adults like I had known them for years, about all sorts of shit from the government to religion. This was because we were on the beach with them for awhile. The body load, or maybe even body high of 2C-E feels like if it were any heavier it would really get shitty, but it's pretty great. It's like a warm, fuzzy euphoria. It's a little like a massively watered down version of DOC's. N and I pretty much didn't stop talking once the entire night either. I was extremely happy and willing to talk to people and strike up conversations. It made me happy. N and I talked about pretty much everything ever as we went swimming and later on, to the boardwalk. We went to the boardwalk after going back to the house and me just pretty much doing the same as I had been, talking with everyone, being happy despite the physical pain I was in, ect. No other drug has allowed me to ignore such pain for the entire duration of the trip. We went back to the boardwalk and it was just getting dark. This was at 7:20pm and I was still 100% as tripping as I was when it set in at around 2. I played some DDR, having not played on machines in quite a few months. I don't play much anymore. I had to pay attention to my heart, which at one point was beating quite fast and hard. Enough to cause a small amount of concern. But once I played more chill songs on DDR I was alright. I was happy to do absolutely anything. No anxiety, not really any cares either. We played a lot of crane games, and analyzation was quick and easy. Thoughts flowed easy, though not as easy as shrooms. It really didn't hinder any thought processes like DOC did. It was not hard in any way to appear sober, and I was tripping hard. Let me explain why I call this the 'life' drug. It's like living another life. It's quite hard to put into words, but it's very unique. Everything is different. It makes me see the word in a different way but I feel like it simply opens doors in your brain (lol the doors). Like TV shows, and people....I just see them as if I'm some sort of alien species observing the human race and how we've advanced and what we've done. I see animals this way too. It's very cool. It's actually probably my favorite aspect of the drug. The pain continued strong until about 1am (12 hours). It was also somewhat difficult to sleep until like 2-2:30am. I hope I didn't forget anything. Read up =)
Seems like you had a pretty good time. I always find it very difficult to talk while trippin' on 2c-e, especially on high doses 35mg+. I just cant get the words out right, sound like a fucking retard.
me too saviorself i feel like i jumble all the words up. but man if you were in seaside trippin you really should have gone on some rides now that sounds like a kick ass time...maybe the huge bungee fall thing?
That sounds like a good trip. I know what you mean about the lack of color. It's very strange. I also know what you mean about being able to act relatively normal on 2ce, because I was tripping on 60mg while I was hanging out my aunt, and she had no clue I was fukt up. I can be tripping sack, but my eyes won't be all bugged out, like with other psychedelics.
i did 50mgs of 2ce yesterday and was completely sober around my parents also , i would compare the visuals very close to lsd though, but less intense...
Yeah wiki says people say 2C-E has better visuals. No, wiki is wrong. Still as totally awesome drug. I have like 4-5 heavy trips left.
I'm convinced 2c-e exists on other planets . . I see fractals everywhere, like mandelbrot set status. the rain brought beings that slid around and opened my skull for the aliens to use me in their vending machines . . I don't think humans should mess with 2c-E it's foreign . . doesn't occur in nature on Earth for a reason. Have fun :]
I don't think I had a tolerance. 48-72 hours seems like plenty of time for tolerance to go back down, because the 60mg trips were noticably more intense than the 50mg trip. I get sick as fuck with 50-60mg. At lower doses, benadryl works wonderfully for eliminating the nausea, but it doesn't work for higher doses. I usually don't eat before trips, so there is never anything in my stomach and I end up puking a shitload of foam and it hurts like a bitch.
Yeah I tripped on 25mg of 2ce and 4 blotters of some kind of DOx while I was hanging out with my grandmother. It's very easy to act normal with 2ce, even at high doses. It also doesn't seem to dilate the pupils quite as much as other psychedelics, in my experience. As for the visuals, I'd say 2ce's visuals are every bit as intense as LSD, but of a slightly different nature. Less kaleidoscopic and less colorful than LSD, but more shaky and chaotic. I always see a lot of objects melting. 2ce made my cousin see a lots of cartoon characters going crazy and sticking knives in eachother's necks/chests and killing eachother and he saw 2 MLB teams on ESPN killing eachother. The CEV's I get from 2ce consist mainly of flying through a feild of blue/green lights, and when I see the lights I also HEAR the lights moving past me; kinda like a pulsating sound. It's intense.
geneity just wonedering..were people around to see you puking in your hole in the sand? the nausea is definitely one part of the trip i am NOT looking forward to. i don't plan on dosing as high as some of you guys so maybe it won't be TOO big of a problem...
there's no drug interaction or anything is there? i know dumb question. i just have a ridiculous trait about me that i don't like to take otc drugs like aspirin or benadryl while i don't really have a problem with smoking weed or taking psychedelics.
Nah there's no bad drug contraindications between benadryl and 2ce. It actually makes the 2ce "bodyload" more comfortable for me. It can make for a kinda drowsy trip though.
I think some of you are incredibly stupid for taking such high dosages of a chemical like 2C-E. I think it's especially stupid to take a psychedelic if you knowlingly have something planned, like "hanging with your aunty". How is that even responsible, or mature? At lower dosages, sure, I can understand that. NOT at higher ones. Either your batches are EXTREMELY weak, or you are just very arrogant people. 2C-E WILL FUCK YOU, EVENTUALLY. Not trying to be a dickhead, but it irritates me when people use psychedelics in a way that goes against what they were originally designed for. Yes, they are fun. Yes, they are especially fun with other people. Yes, they are life-affirming. But - they are also capable of inducing deep spiritual experiences, profound on a level which is indescribable. Whether they do this in a gentle way, or by completely dissolving your ego, is of course dependant on a number of factors. All I'm asking is that you please treat these chemicals with the respect they deserve. There seems to be an increasing number of "oooh, look at me"-type people appearing on hipforums, and it gets tiring very quickly, because it sounds like dick-sizing. "I took xx mgs of xx chemical and I was soooo fucked up, w00t!" Also, why bother posting experiences here? That's what Erowid is for.
We use our free speech forums, which ever way we please. Erowid does not have exclusive rights to trip reports. And as for what 2CE was designed for, that's a matter of opinion.
i honestly dont see TO much bragging, i mean i dont brag about this substances... i guess the reason i post about having/doing them is so others can ask questions... no, at 50+ mgs of 2CE i had almost no naseau, slight visuals possibly due to tolerance and potency and was able to communicate very legibly.