I am completely inexperienced in the RC world. A thread I started on the LSD page led me to investigate 2c-e. My first question is rudimentary: how is an oral dose administered? Can the powder be mixed in a preferred beverage or should it be eaten straight? More importantly, I am wondering if this is the drug for me. I had a mad and lasting love affair with LSD years ago and am looking for a similar experience. I am not a raver. I like to explore deep psychedelia, lying on my back, listening to early '70s GD, watching the show on the back of my eyelids, experiencing nirvana and enlightenment. Is 2c-e conducive to this sort of trip?
I would imagine just put it into gel caps you can get at a health food store, assuming you already have a scale.
Yes, you can mix it into a drink, if you'd like. That's how I always do it anyway, because I don't have a mg scale and use liquid measurements. Also, based on the description of your preferred trip, you would LOVE 2ce. It makes music sound amazing, it produces insanely intricate OEV's/CEV's, impressive levels of psychedelic mindfuck with decent doses, and when you let go enough to get lost in the music/visuals.....it shoots VERY intense waves of euphoria through your entire body. It's not the same type of trip as LSD and the visuals are of a different nature, but it's every bit as impressive, in my experience. For me, 2ce has always felt very mechanical, and I can even feel the electrical currents moving through my body. It's slightly less colorful than LSD, and it also seems to be more "chaotic", imo. I highly recommend it. The only drawback is the moderately intense nausea during the comeup, but the nausea's not unbearable and passes before the trip begins, in my experience.
I hear ginger tea works great. Cannabis makes the 2ce trip more intense IMO, but it adds the haziness of cannabis to the trip, in turn making it a different kind of trip. That's just my opinion though.
Yeah open-eyed visuals and closed-eye visuals, as xanonimity stated. Fresh ginger works well, or so I hear, but I have always used anti-motion sickness preparations, such as benadryl(diphenhydramine) or dramamine(dimenhydrinate). It works, but it makes for a kinda drowsy trip, which is sometimes a good thing, because it adds interesting aspects to the trip.
Think I'll try benadryl next time I use t7. Tried pepto last time, cuz it was all I had, and that did absolutely nothing at all. Have yet to vomit (well, besides when I went with the nasal route), but the nausea can be distracting while you're frying lol.
yea u def sound like a prime candidate for 2c-e exploration. i always jus deal with the nausea until it either passes or i puke. usually one hour and it goes away. 2c-e is def one of my favs. i stated at 15mg and have only gone up to 20mg. 20mg IMO is comparable in levels of intensity to say 2 goods tabs of todays cid. i am def gonna up the dose wen i can find more.
I had always though that people snorted it to help with nausea. One of the reasons why I planned on doing that way. Am I wrong or did you maybe just have some really nasty drip going on?
Let me just add that if anyone wants to use fresh ginger, cap it, parachute it, or make tea. Stupid me, the first time I was going to use ginger, I just munched down on a chunk of fresh ginger, which as some might know doesn't taste too good.
Snorting it doesn't prevent the nausea. It just makes it kick in faster and it also requires a smaller amount, so it's good for conservation. It also makes for a shorter trip though, so it's basically a matter of weighing the pros and cons.
i usually mix 2ce with water and drink it, but i'd recommend a flavored drink (orange juice, soda?) to mask the taste. i think 2ce is KIND OF similar to acid (more so than shrooms or 2cb) but of course it's somewhat different too. it can get pretty deep. it's great for music and watching the back of your eyelids. i've also had some "enlightening" thoughts, but not quite as profound as acid maybe. 2ce is probably not as safe as acid though, and it doesn't feel as "clean." i get a pretty significant headache on the comedown and the next day. nausea on the comeup or sometimes coming down i have stomach pains. gas. the trip itself is great, but the before/after effects kinda suck. having just had 1.5 hits of "good" acid (they were "US blues" which i read aobut on here, and suppossedly have 150 mics per hit but who knows) i can make a better comparison. i've had acid before but a couple years ago. 2ce i've had recently. 1 hit and a half seemed about as intense as 12-15 mg of 2ce. there were very few visuals with that dose of acid, even less than a small dose of 2ce. acid before has been pretty visual for me. but i know this was acid. i had the laughs from it, majorly. and the acid felt so much better to my body. no nausea, no headache, no gas or wierd stomach pains. i've probably just become more used to tripping in general over the years, so i could use a couple of hits of L at a time so in general i'd say acid makes you laugh more for sure, 2ce doesn't really. acid is probably more visual for most people, depending on the dose. the visuals are different, that you'll have to see for yourself. 2ce can have a sneaky, sinister feel to it. i think i'm more clear headed on 2ce and it seems to come in waves, while acid effects my head a little more, and is more constant, even though i can still be somewhat clear headed and the trip can still come in waves. i'd say 2ce is worth trying, but don't take it often. stick with acid if you can. i'll be tripping on L the next 3 or 4 times. now that i have that, i'm putting the 2ce away for awhile
Great post, porkstock, and I agree with all of it. The only difference is that I don't get the negative after-effects you speak of. I always feel perfectly fine after a hefty dose of 2ce; the nausea during the comeup being the only exception. I like the new sig, btw:sifone:
i never mix powders with anything unless i have to, to get them out of containers. Otherwise just throw that powder straight into your mouth, gargle with some water and swallow the water. i like tasting what im taking, at least that first time.
The thing about having a steady L supply for a few years is that after having tripped so much on it you want to expand your horizons. L is still my #1 substance, but I'd like to experience new and different things as well. Which is why I got into RCs. Still do L, but now I mix it up too lol.
I'd like to try about 5 hits of good L with about 30mg of 2ce. I can imagine that being spectacularly beautiful
yup i looks too similar to yours i asked her to do it without the smoke, but she said she didn't know what else to do i just asked her to make me one outta the blue, cuz i knew she made yours she made it in like an hour nice of her