2005 ... how strange and crazy will it get next year ...

Chillun ….​

The world spins and in crazy ways. Thing’s in your life are sudden and immediate, demanding you to respond now. It is useful as a young person as you learn to deal with life. Do not be concerned, and do not be worried because to be forewarned it to be forearmed.

But 2005 will be beyond a crazy year.


Next year is going to be more crazy than anyone can even imagine, and after July especially our entire world is going to change. I base this on President Bush’s progressed chart in relation to the 1776 USA chart, especially relating to Uranus in 9 Gemini as well as Condi Rice’s progressed chart. Not the least are the Transits of Uranus through Pisces 9. Afflictions to the US' 1776 Uranus are never wrong, and were present at the beginning of the Civil War, the Second World War and the assassination of President Kennedy, and on September 11, 2001 .



Gang, what a sensible person will do is get out of the stock market first. Second be prepared to be attacked so always have plenty of cash and a full tank of gas. Have an escape plan.



You may laugh at Zanman now feeling fairly confident in your position and situation … one year from now you will not laugh. At the same time do not be concerned because life always balances things out in the end.

I make this prediction with respect to those who will listen, I don’t care whether you tell me I was right …

I am happy to discuss the many astrological aspects that I use to forsee the disaster of 2005.

 

i don't think money and a tank of gas will do it
(especialy if you don't own a car)
but emmigration to some relatively free and relatively likely to remain neutral or at least neither supporting nor immediately attacking of the us place that stands a reasonable chance of not being gobbled up by insanity sounds more and more and better and better like a REAL GOOD idea.

of course HOW these charts play out in real terms is never nearly as predictable that quite likely they somehow may.

but most of the increasing crazyiness under the dominance of the carl rove mentality with chaney and rumsfiels at the actual helm, double ewww as their hood orniment and ashcroft covering their ashes, needs no confirmation from the celestial sphere to predict.

when looking ahead, every contribution into the mix is potentialy useful. even the often ambiguous indications of celestial happinstance.

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And if none of this stuff comes to pass in 2005, will you admit that you were wrong and astrology is bullshit?

 

i don't see how the generalities could fail to, astrology or no astrology. i mean things are already pretty wierd under the crap the u.s. is currently dominated by so it seems to me the only way for the deep doo doo not to get deeper would be for bush to get his ashcroft impeached out of there. and that would still of course fulfill the predicted wierdness. likewise as for constitutional crysis, we are defacto already in it and have been ever since 'patriot one', just as we were when raygun betrayed the constitution and nixxon suspended it.

so whichever and whatever happens, chainges are ALWAYS happining.

none of which PROOVES anything about anything.
and remember there doesn't have to be causal relationship
between things for there to emerge a sometimes indicative
simultaniety.

so to call ANYthing ABSOLUTE "bullshit" is just as much of
a streatch as to take everything at litteral face value.

"bullshit" in the sense of being absolutely reliably and usefully predictive, well maybe.

i think we always fool ourselves when we take any attempt
to predict the broader social landscape too litteraly,

whether we do so with computer plotted statistical functions
of observable social trends or reading the patterns in a
dogs vomit.

i think this bussiness of astrology, however unreliable in
any absolute litteral sense, remains mostly harmless good
clean fun.

and if a prediction comes true you can say "gee oh wow it
really happened" and if it don't you can always just shrug
your sholders and maybe laugh a little and be thankful
when things turn out better then they might have.

but i also still think if i had any clear way of doing so i'd become a citizen of someplace like canada or austraillia or some other place like that. someplace where you won't get killed for having been born an american but also where you won't get killed BY being an american.

you know world war one was something most people thought the world they lived in was too civilized to happen before it did, and of course there have been lots of much more recent examples, many if not most of them, precipitated by 'western' economic interests.

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You can call astrology whatever you like ... it doesn't alter the fact that events that occur on Earth correspond to events that take place in the sky, and astrology is one way of measuring those celestial events.

You obviously have no knowledge of the subject, because if you did you would not say something so obtuse.

In any event, if I am wrong I will say so. I have not been wrong in a long time because I do not predict things willy nilly, and I have predicted every president since Jimmy Carter. I did not predict 9/11 because I wasn't really paying attention as I was in Australia without my software. On looking back 9/11 ocurred right after a Full Moon that fell at 9 Virgo, T-square Uranus in 9 Gemini!!!

I suggest you look at the position of Uranus in the 1776 chart at 9 Gemini and watch how this squares Bush's progressed Sun Mars conjunction, all T-squared to Transit Uranus in Pisces. These are terribly violent afflictions and Bush will have to deal with something worse that 9/11 late next year ...

 

Yawn. There is absolutely NO scientific evidence to back up what you are saying.

I know enough about it to know that its proponents routinely ignore scientific evidence that goes against their claims, brush aside their predictions that do not come true, and interpret data in hindsight (as you did with 9/11).

Gee, all five of them? George W. Bush was the only president in recent years who had a close election, so you had a 50-50 chance of guessing right.

And I suggest you open a science book or take a course on critical thinking, instead of wasting your time with the nonsense that is astrology.

 

There is absolutely no "scientific evidence" that astrology “works”.





In 1888 it was scientifically impossible to operate on a living heart.



In 1900 it was scientifically impossible to fly a heavier-than-air airplane.



In 1963 it was scientifically impossible to land on the moon.



In 1972 it was scientifically impossible to transplant a heart …



I could list a thousand instances where “science” had to catch up to reality.

The fact that “science” has not yet caught up to the great truth of astrology does not bother me in the slightest, as I know astrology, and you my friend do not …

 

Those things were never scientifically impossible. Technologically impossible, perhaps, but there was nothing in the rules of physics or biology to prevent those things.

Tell me...why weren't astrologers around the world busting down the doors to the New York Times, MSNBC, and CNN on September 10, warning of the impending disaster?

Could it be...because they have NO skills whatsoever? Yes.

 

... And there is nothing to "prevent" astrology ... It will take a while though for the insensitive to catch up.

You make too many assumptions my friend ... once again you do not understand astrology ... although you seem bright and it would be nice if you would be a little more mentally flexible.

You warned me of dealing in logical fallacies a post or two ago, but you do not follow your own rules ... You brought it up and I do not wish to lecture you on what you should already know, since you suggested I read something on critical thinking right? So please don't throw non sequiters at me, it demeans your argument and what is worse, it bores me.

In the world, the death of 3000 people means nothing. About 200,000 people die each day on this planet so why would anyone notice 3000? They matter because of the WAY they died, the SYMBOLIC death of America, but as an astrological event they are a blip, crude and cruel as that may sound.
In actuality the previous Eclipse fell across the square of the natal 1776 Uranus, but that would be meaningless to you and the EVENT was a political one, not physical, and you must understand the difference if you are to ever understand astrology.

There actually ARE major indicators of problems coming up because of the Uranus 9 Gemini position in the 1776 chart I have already alluded to, and the Sun Mars conjunction of Bush and Rice's problems also. So late next year will be terrible for the US and the world. I wish I had the ability to define that by zip code!

 

So let me get this straight...Astrology can predict a major terrorist attack next year, astrology can predict whether or not you should get your hair cut today, astrology can predict an individual's fortune or failure, but it can't predict the deaths of 3000 people ahead of time (and yet, you just claimed a few posts back that you could've predicted 9/11 had you been "paying more attention" at the time).

Sounds very scientific... Maybe you should stop making excuses for the consistent failure of astrology.

When it gets closer to the time of the disaster, be sure to alert the Department of Homeland Security. And if they won't take you seriously, call the news media. If that doesn't work, call the tabloids.

You have yet to offer any testable claims of astrology, or experimental evidence, or ANY scientific explanation as to why this should work. Until you prove your claims, astrology will remain among the ranks of ghosts, UFOs, Santa Claus, magic, and all the other stupid things people believe in.

 

I did not say there will be a terrorist attack next year.
What I do say is that there are severe tensions in President Bush's chart starting in July, and also Condi Rice's chart, and I think it is of a world crisis nature. I am not sure exactly what is going to happen but the President will be in crisis mode for some months ...

 

Way to address all of the points I made...

Fine, replace the words "terrorist attack" in my previous post with "major crisis." Now answer the questions.

 

You need to understand this ... there was not one event on September 11th 2001, there were 3000 individual events as 3000 people died, and a larger event which is shown in the US 1776 chart, as I have posted on another thread.
If you look at an individual chart the moment of death occurs when Pluto and the Sun are in relation to one another by aspect. Pluto represents the end of the cycle started by the Sun. So in each of those charts this aspect would have occurred.

 

Year of the Rooster!!! Things should be cool.

 

About the Wood Rooster year, which is 2005. The last Wood Rooster occurred in 1945, and while WW II was over that year it was also the year two atomic bomb were dropped on Japan!

The Rooster likes to make a lot of show and strut his stuff and all that ... but remember the Rooster can take offense at the slightest insult... things can easily get out ouf hand.

 

hey kandahar, shut up.