19 year old kills her baby and is let free...

I was watching the news here yesterday and there was a story about this 19 year old (now 20) who had a baby in the basement of her house and took it outside, strangled him and then threw him into the neighbor's yard. Sounds sick, huh? The worst part is that the trial was yesterday and she has been put on house arrest but is still allowed to go to work, school and chior practice and performances. HUH!?!?!?!?!?!
Then, the news crew went around asking people around town what they think about this, and they all said that because of her age it's excusable and that the system was too hard on her.
The same thing happened to a girl I used to be friends with in high school. She had a baby when she was 17 and after a few months, she was sick of hearing the baby crying one day and stuffed him under her bed while she had sex with some guy in her living room. When she came back in the room, the baby was dead.
The cops deemed the crime "suspicous" but said that there wasn't anything they could do......I am getting SO sick of hearing that line!!!!!!!!
Now, both these girls are free to live normal lives. WTF!? I feel like THROWING UP when I even THINK about what could have possibly possesed them to kill their own babies!!! Am I missing something here? Cuz I think that this is just SICK, especially the fact that they are not even being punished!

 

That's just awful. Bless those poor, innocent babies' souls.

 

i know!!!!
there was a really big case here a few years back...young couple who did that...cant reme,ber the names now...but my ex was theyre parole oficer
its sick that something so horrible could be thought of as just a mistake

 

thats shameful and sad

I used to live by this dam where they would frequently find babies bodies, one girl had birth, killed her baby, drove through McDonalds, then threw the baby in the water

unbeliveably cruel and unnecessary, especially when should could have taken the baby anywhere and it would have been adopted.

I guess people are pretty damned afraid of their parents, ridiculous

 

i think that alot of young teenagers ( 13-19) are very uneducated about the facts of life. i mean they know that if they have sex they could get pregnant but what they dont know is their own bodies and the risks they are taking just by having sex. i think that the government should spend a tad bit more money on awareness about sex and the consequences,facts,risks, and actually go and bring in young mothers and have them explain to the teens how they got pregnant and how it changed their lives. also educate these kids that if they do get pregnant that there are options out there like adoption and going to the firedept and just handing your child over.

It just sickens me that today's society is stuck on skinny and beautiful instead of educating the kids about the simple facts of life. GGGGGGRRRRRRR

 

How I wish we lived in a world of, AN EYE FOR AN EYE!

 

It's unbelievable that someone would do that to a soul born of their own body....I would say this indicates that changes need to be made in order for the mentality of the people who perpetrate such acts.

*Comprehensive sex education (for parents AND children!)
*The teaching of accountability for one's actions
*Parents presenting themselves as more open to discussion about controversial or "uncomfortable" issues

......more?

 

you took the words right outta my mouth. That girl who I went to high school with actually ran around the school jumping and yelling, "I'M PREGNANT!!!" I took her aside and was like, "you DO realize that you're having a baby, right?" She was like, "I know, isn't it cool!?" All of her friends tried to tell her what she was really facing and all she could talk about was her maternity clothes!!!

 

awwwww those poor babies! Some people just shouldn't be able to reproduce!

 

inexcusable. My mother had her first baby at 19, and her last(me) at 42...and when she was 19, it was back in the early 60s, and things were even harder.

a 19 year old woman is just as capable as a 25 year old. Poor children

 

Its horrible, i was chatting to my mate about this and she said maybe the mums had PND but if they babies where just born surely she wouldnt have!!! Who know whats goes through their mind, who would want to know, I hope their little souls rest in peace now. Its a shame no justice will ever be done to the evil bitches who killed them though.

 

that's so weird because i saw this episode of oprah a couple weeks ago where a woman was serving something like 6 or 7 years for a crime she had done about 6 yrs earlier... i think she was 16 or so and she got pregnant, hid it incredibly well and then gave birth in her bedroom, the baby was determined to have already been still born (probably from the malnourishment of the mom and her bf stepping on her stomach and stuff) anyway, the baby was stillborn and she left it in the bedroom to go eat dinner with her family, then she went back to the room and stabbed it with a knife once and then her bf came back from college or something later on and put it in a duffel bag with rocks and threw it in a quarry.... she wasn't caught until she broke down in a restaurant several years later and told her current bf about it.... so yeah, it amazes me that this woman who essentially treated a corpse badly is getting 6-7 and a girl who deliberately killed a baby is only on house arrest. i think there should be a more narrow length of sentencing for crimes so that there isn't such a variation

 

it's pathetic! I have noticed, though, that the crimes here get a far less punishment than people in the US do. Another example....remember the infamous Scott and Lacy Peterson case? That made headline news for how long? Last summer, there was a man here who did the same thing EXACTILY, and it's barely even known around here. It's like crime up here isn't dealt with....it's really pathetic. Every time I have ever talked to the cops, I don't think that there has been one single time when I haven't heard, "there's nothing we can do."

 

^^ The Peterson case though, if you ask me, was sensationalist BS. It was an opportunity for conservatives to pass legislation declaring the fetus as a person, with all the rights of a person. So that he would be charged with TWO counts of murder. In other words, it was a "stepping stone" legislation to declare that killing a fetus is murder - under the guise of something nobody could disagree with ("You don't HATE children, do you?). This will no doubt become clear when it comes up as precedent next time a state passes an anti-abortion law.

And I know this doesn't compare, but I had to rant about it anyway - the other day I was waiting in line at a convenience store and this woman comes in carrying her twins. They're TINY, couldn't have been more than 3 or 4 weeks old, each in a car seat. She walked in there banging both car seats pretty good along the way, and immediately set them both down on the floor and walked over to the counter to buy cigarettes. They each had a bottle shoved up against their heads and when she disappeared from sight they both started crying. Instead of responding to them, she ignored them for a couple of minutes and then asked an old lady standing nearby to shove the bottles in their mouths "to quiet them down". I wanted to SCREAM at her! Okay, rant complete.

 

This story has about 10000 of my pet peeves about BAD parenting in it. I don't usually say thing to strangers, but in this case, I think I might have. Wouldn't it have just been easier to CARRY two 5 lb babies than to put them into buckets and carry those, just for a start. Ug. That womyn probably went through years of fertility treatments, too, to get those babies.

I don't want to start......

 

Funny thing, Maggie, is I almost PM'd you to vent after getting home! I guess I've learned my lesson about keeping it pent up, 'cause the frustration's stayed with me for days. I wanted soooo badly to say something, but I bit my tongue and got out of there as quick as I could. Argh.

 

oh yeah, i totally forgot you were in canada

even in the US though, some cases get LOTS of attention and some don't... it kind of depends on the family's insistance and the story behind it.... like hummblebee said, it was really sensationalized... i think a big part of it was that lacy went missing on christmas eve and she and her husband were both attractive and all her pics had her with a huge smile and all that stuff... i don't know the circumstances around the case you mentioned but maybe it just wasn't as media-appropriate? hehe... sounds kinda weird.. how can a horrible crime be more of less media appropriate....

oh! keeping crime out of the media is probably a good thing though, because seeing so much of it really desensitizes us to it... and it may just be a stereotype, but i always hear about how low crime is in canada... it might have a correlation?

 

I wouldn't count on the low crime rate thing here. It's just "dealt with" by the people who have been victimized. Another example: Last November, there was a party a few towns over with a bunch of high school kids. These 4 guys all decided to come back after the party was over with clubs and beat the shit outta the guy hosting it until he was dead. It was no accident, either, they admitted that they wanted to kill him. Guess what they're punishment was? House arrest for 2 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

wow.

i'm speechless

 

Humblebee, I know how you feel. I know, rarely saying anything does any good. Either people get mad and take it out on their kids, or they just invent reasons why they are justified about their poor choices.

*sigh* I probably would have tried to be diplomatic and said "Oh, my kids hated that car seat, I just carried them. They were SO much happier."

Once I tried to nicely talk to a couple who were looking for parenting books at Borders with a really pregnant mama.

I suggested The Baby Book by Sears and Sears, (not knowing who these people were, assuming they were normal people) and the womyn SCOFFED at me.

She said,"Oh, I've been warned about that nut. We're looking for Ezzo's "On Becoming Babywise."

I had to say it. "You know, the American Academy of Pediatricians has said that book is one of the most dangerous books on the market on parenting. I can assure you, there is nothing in there that will benefit that beautiful baby you have in your belly there."

The womyn actually said to me, "Well, my husband and I are not going waste our time spending all our time just coddling some brat. You La Leche League types don't have lives after your brats are born, my husband and I plan to continue living as we have always done." OMG. :furious3:

I had to walk away, mumbling "yeah, good luck with that......" She and her obviously clueles dh laughed when I walked away. At least I know I CARED for my children, and didn't refer to them as "brats" even before I met them, much less when they were innocent babies.

Ya wonder why the Good Lord let's some people have babies....you wonder who is actually worse, "parents" like these, or the ones who put their babies into dumpsters....No, I didn't say that....