I have a question for women. I hope it's OK to post this here, being a man and all, but I don't think it's out of line. What kind of man do you find more "desirable" (for lack of a better word)? A bad ass dude who breaks all the rules and lives a wild and dangerous life, or a good and wholesman man who is driven to do the right thing in this world out of honor and dignity? Note that both kinds of men can be handsome and physically sexy. Both can be confident and real go-getters. Both can stand out and rise above the crowd. . . . . . PS - If this thread survives for long enough, I have several other questions for the women out there
I want in between...knows when to break the rules and take risks and has a higher consciousness and wants to do right.
Wow, this thread died a quick death. Anyway, on to my next question: You know that people often joke about how the woman is always right--even when she's wrong. Where do you think this comes from? This is mostly going to be a matter of opinion, of course, but I see two sources: In my own case, my wife can argue me under the table whenever she wants. I haven't quite figured it out yet. I think it's a combination of things: she's definitely more conscious of mundane facts than I am and so she can easily bring them up in an argument whereas I have to scrape and scrounge for statements of fact (or else make something up). She's also good at playing on the guilt, so she knows just the right thing to say so that I don't feel like disagreeing (for fear of making her feel bad). Both these things point to one thing: better argumentation skills. I don't know if this makes her "right" more often than me (although I think it does) but it certainly makes her better at winning arguments. I don't think I'm the only guy who's experienced this. Then there's the second source: maybe women are more sensative about being wrong than men. Maybe they need reassurance more often than men, so it's always advised to men to accept that she's right just to spare her feelings and avoid getting into a fight. I don't know. That's just what I thought of. The joke had to come from somewhere. There must be some grain of truth to it. This stuff doesn't just become popular for no reason at all. What's the source?
I think it comes more from the woman usually gets her way in a relationship with things like, house color, bathroom tiles, etc. not really arguments. It's a character flaw if somebody feels they need to be right even when they're wrong, and fail to provide evidence to support their side of an argument...
Oh, so you mean something like: husband: "what color should we paint the walls, honey?" wife: "I think pink would be nice." husband: "Good idea darling."
For your first question, I don't think guys are that one dimensional. I like rebellious adventurous men that are also good people. For your second question i think you answered your own question better than i can
Yeah, I know. It was sort of a "if you had to choose" kind of question. I had several answers. Do you think they all play a roll?
Dude, you described my ex-boyfriend with that stereotype LMAO. Women in general.... are raised to indulge in drama, crying...taught that if something happens to them, they are a victim...etc. Men in general....taught to not cry if hurt, be a man...indulge in anger instead....don't hit girls...etc.
I'm too young to have a grown-up child, so "badass" doesn't do it for me. Honestly, I just want someone decent, kind and interesting to hang out with a lot.
Yup. What if he was a mix. Both badass and kind at the same time. I agree that a mere badass is sort of a grown-up-child, but I think those who can mix the two together, knowing when to be one and when to be the other, are the most mature of all.
OK, here's a question I've always wanted to know: We all know that muscle definition on a man is sexy. I'm not talking Arnold Schwartzenegger mass muscles, where the guy's on steroids and his blood veins look like they're about to burst out of his skin, but lean, well defined muscles. But I'm wondering if a man doing hard work, like lifting heavy boxes or going through menial hard labor and breaking a sweat, is also sexy. Imagine a good looking guy doing this, but he's fully clothed so you can't see any muscle definition. But he's definitely straining his muscles. Is this sexy?
Well, it'd be a lot sexier if her WEREN'T wearing his clothes, heh heh, but, yeah, it's sexy either way ;p
I'm going to dig up this old thread to post another question to women: I was in a conversation with a woman the other day and she said something that made me think. She said: "What's wrong with buying a woman a $3,000 diamond ring for a proposal? If she's worth it, shouldn't he go that extra mile to spend the money and buy her something she deserves?" It was a point that was hard to argue, but I felt there was something wrong with it. If she's worth it, then sure (I guess) I should go the extra mile. If she's worth it, wouldn't I want to? Well, it all seems to turn on that "she's worth it," doesn't it? I certainly wouldn't want to buy her a $3,000 diamond ring because she's guilted me into it, or made me feel that it's my "duty" to do so--as though, for example, if she told me "You love me, right? Well, then don't you owe me a really expensive chunk of rock?" Then it hit me: yes, this girl was right--if she's worth it, then I would buy her a hugely expensive sparkling diamond ring, I would WANT to, I would LOVE to... but not for her. Not for this particular woman I was having a conversation with. Any woman who would TELL me I owe her a diamond ring would NOT be worth it. I couldn't fall in love with such a girl. Even if I was in love with such a girl, and supposing I wanted to go out and buy her something really expensive just to sweep her off her feet, the minute she tells me I OUGHT to do so, the wind is completely taken out of my sale; I lose the motivation, the romance is gone, I suddenly don't feel so loving towards her. Instead, I feel like saying "Who are you to tell me what I ought to buy you?" So she's right--this girl I was in a conversation with--a woman I love WOULD be worth a diamond ring--but not her. I'd rather buy a ring for a girl out of love, not out of guilt. But then this raised a question in my mind: what does that mean? It seems the objection could be raised that I would only buy a ring for a girl who has low self-esteme, a girl who never expresses that she could be worth it. Is this really what it says about me? It couldn't be. Loving someone for being humble cannot be the same as loving someone for having low self-esteme. I think in my defense, I can appeal to everyone's sense of liking those who are humble over those who boast about how great they are. Think about it: it doesn't have to be a woman or a man. ANYONE who boasts about how great they are and therefore how the world owes them a living is going to be less likable (to men AND women). Humbleness is a likable quality in a person. Not telling someone that they owe you something is definitely a plus when it comes to making good impressions. Is this the same as having low self-esteme? If it is, then I'm not the only one who's guilty--we all are. I don't think it could mean this though. Being humble and refraining from telling people what they owe you might just be a sign of self-satisfaction and contentment with the way of things just as they are. If you're satisfied with the world and yourself, why would you NEED to tell others that they owe you this and that? Could it be interpreted this way? What do you think? I want to hear some feedback from a woman's perspective. PS - I should say in defensive of this poor girl I was in a conversation with: she probably DIDN'T mean it this way. I think (probably) she meant that if a man goes out and buys a girl a $3,000 diamond ring, his friends shouldn't roast him for it. I other words, if he REALLY WANTS to, let him. That's PROBABLY what she meant.
I think the term badass is attractive to a lot of girls and women because it implies a man who can use physical force to defend his family , be assertive and yet give off an aura of risk, passion, safety, ambition, leadership, intelligence, and lightheartedness in situations other guys would over analyze and ruin the moment. I think to a lot of society a badass in our minds is not the same as a jerk.
I don't think so either. A badass, to me, just means someone who doesn't care to follow anyone's rules, not that he wants to hurt anyone.
Here's my next question: You're on a date with a guy. He's a perfect gentleman. He opens doors for you. He pulls out the chair for you at the restaurant. He pays for everything. He gives you his coat when it's getting cold. What impression does this leave you with? a) He's a sweet guy who wants to treat you right, or b) He's a shauvanist who thinks you're dependent on a guy to open doors for you, pull out chairs, pay for the evening, and protect you from the cold.
sounds like it's going to be c) he's a pussy who has to listen to you complain about the guy you're actually willing to sleep with.
