What god isn't.

VV,
There is no infinity.
State an example or conceed.

I'm not here to teach elementry physics. your own your own learning thermodynamics.

suffice it to say Entropy precludes infinity. this is clearly beyond your level of understanding. To state a fact is not an attack of any kind.

I have no definition of "god".

You insinuate you do and you say you don't. Which is it?

So far, you've made fanciful but NOT factual statements.

I'll not debate your mystiscism. You can believe in the infinite if you choose- but it's just a belief, with no basis in reality.

Incidently, I started this thread.

It's you who have failed to respond to the topic.

Originally Posted by geckopelli

VV,
There is no infinity.
State an example or conceed.

I'm not here to teach elementry physics. your own your own learning thermodynamics.

suffice it to say Entropy precludes infinity. this is clearly beyond your level of understanding. To state a fact is not an attack of any kind.

I have no definition of "god".

You insinuate you do and you say you don't. Which is it?

So far, you've made fanciful but NOT factual statements.

I'll not debate your mystiscism. You can believe in the infinite if you choose- but it's just a belief, with no basis in reality.

What a shocker. You ignored my post and began ranting about infinity again. No really, I couldn't be more surprised. Also, since all you had to say about the relationship between entropy and infinity was, "I'm so smart you could never hope to understand me," I'll just go ahead and assume that you don't know what entropy is, and instead you're just parroting someone else who did. Here's a link to help explain it:

http://www.secondlaw.com/ten.html

By the way, infinity is not all-loving. Infinity does not have emotions the same way we do. There. Now how anyone cannot understand what infinity is after those breath-taking epiphanies is beyond me! I think we've really made progress today!

Your ranting foucuses on your ignorance.

I don't need links.

You've said nothing of substance.

And so it stands that there are NOT an infinte number of things that god isn't.

So back to topic:

god isn't Vae Victus' unsubstantiated ravings.

Originally Posted by geckopelli

Infinity is a mathematical construct. Ther are no real world examples.
.

Gecko

Truth.
And there can be none.
For infinity has no end..
And a thing with no end.
Cannot be defined by that which is not infinite.

"Without people, there is no math"

Exactly.
Without humans there is no human math..
Human math is a human language to define reality.
Without humans , it does not exist.

Occam

Many say.."math" is universal.
False.
Math is our desctiption of the workings of the universe.
The universe is universal
Math describes it for US alone.
And who can show that the universe we observe is ALL there is?
NONE.

It may be just a facet of a titanic multiverse..
Most of which human math does not apply to.

Math is dependent of objective laws.
If they change.
Human math is only applicable to 'our obsevable facet'

No-one can say if the objective laws are consistent throughout totallity.

Originally Posted by geckopelli

One problem:

There is no verifiable example of energy spontaneously coming into creation from nothing.

God isn't nothing.

Originally Posted by geckopelli

Much simpler to suppose such a god would allow/require the Universe to run down in it's time and then start over. Or run out in one place and "leak" into another- such as into a blackhole and out a whitehole and into the big bang, thus closing the universe- or confining god's toy, if you will.

I don't masturbate in public because I don't think people would enjoy it too much (yet). Maybe God does not do stuff around people who doubt Gods existence, because God knows that those people are not ready to acknowledge their God. Somes got their cherry popped, somes don't... there is lots of foreplay howeva...

An assumption and a maybe.

And maybe god is the easter bunny and he really wants us to eat colored eggs.

I'm not prepared to say that god is and assumption and a maybe- or vice-versa.

Originally Posted by geckopelli

An assumption and a maybe.

I'm not prepared to say that god is and assumption and a maybe- or vice-versa.

What exactly are you prepared to say?

There is room in Reality for a possible "god" of some kind that could be omnipotent, omnipresent, and in a "place" that can be labeled- anything you want. Heaven. Cucamonga. Whatever.
But that's all I've got so far.
All the evidence for seems to be subjective. Can't find one tangible thing-
except for the Rules of Reality- and ascribing them to intelligence is just too subjective a decsion at this point.

Originally Posted by geckopelli

There is room in Reality for a possible "god" of some kind that could be omnipotent, omnipresent, and in a "place" that can be labeled- anything you want. Heaven. Cucamonga. Whatever.
But that's all I've got so far.
All the evidence for seems to be subjective. Can't find one tangible thing-
except for the Rules of Reality- and ascribing them to intelligence is just too subjective a decsion at this point.

You are either going to have to look for evidence of God with an open mind (stop chalking stuff up to coincidence) or wait until something happens in your life that is significant enough to make you realize there is a God (take a trip to hell for 20 minutes or so).

Kharakov