What god isn't.

Originally Posted by veinglory

As far as I can see God just *isn't* -- period.

So when i masturbate and think about god i am doing it in vein?

god isn't my dog. cause i don't have a dog. oh get it dog, god. freaky

Originally Posted by meishka

god isn't my dog. cause i don't have a dog. oh get it dog, god. freaky

God is such a freak for coming up with bestiality. You know the only reason God does crazy stuff like that (and wars) is so we think God is cool. G's got my vote for coolness.

Originally Posted by Kharakov

God is such a freak for coming up with bestiality. You know the only reason God does crazy stuff like that (and wars) is so we think God is cool. G's got my vote for coolness.

Take it to the christian forum, if you're looking to agitate, child.

We don't care about your sexual preferences.

Originally Posted by meishka

god isn't my dog. cause i don't have a dog. oh get it dog, god. freaky

i'm a lesbain trapped in a man's body. i ate the penguin

Meishka

Occam is a rational being trapped in a human body.
He ate an apple.
[or so the myth goes]

Occam

i agree, myth. that is wat religon is. but the cristians take it too far. wen i think of america and the exucutions done in the name of god. i like the eastern religions like buddism as they seem more peaceful. but remermber grade school? i'm sure we all did a project on the greeks. why doesn't anyone follow the word of zeus? like he disappeared. wat the cathlolics and christians haven't realised is "god" is the same a zeus and he could be gone tommorow because he doesn't exist

All I can say is this, in every age, in every culture, in every part of the world, whenever anyone has transcended their biological, cultural, intellectual and religious preconceptions in order to have the mystic experience of seeing reality as it actually is, every one of them has described the same experience.

Surely this is, at the very least, a statistically improbable phenomenon that is worthy of attention.

Some of these Mystics (Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and Lao Tsu, just to name a few) started religions that have thrived for hundreds or even thousands of years. Others, like Rumi, Valmiki, Hillel, J. Krishnamurti, Thomas Acquinas, Bodhidharma, Basho, Al-Hallaj, Meister Eckhart, and yes, even Bob Marley, brought considerable vitality to their traditions and inspiration to those to whom they communicated their "Vision."

Just a thought.

Interestingly you are willing to accept that God might an entity within one's mind and yet you say its unreal? Are thoughts unreal? Are emotions unreal?

no, emotions and thoughts are very real.
what i meant was... people who ask questions of life and get answers, or believe that when they pray they are listened to, or that miracles happen because of a spiritual entity... really are a bit off the track. its all coming from within themselves.

yes, thoughts are real. but i believe that these people are mistaking their own powers of healing and spiritual enlightenment for someone/something that is outside of them.

You know what? Every single thing everyone has listed also applies to rocks... and the color blue... and most of the other concepts in the universe. Defining what something is not is an exercise in futility.

Originally Posted by Varuna

All I can say is this, in every age, in every culture, in every part of the world, whenever anyone has transcended their biological, cultural, intellectual and religious preconceptions in order to have the mystic experience of seeing reality as it actually is, every one of them has described the same experience.

Surely this is, at the very least, a statistically improbable phenomenon that is worthy of attention.

Some of these Mystics (Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and Lao Tsu, just to name a few) started religions that have thrived for hundreds or even thousands of years. Others, like Rumi, Valmiki, Hillel, J. Krishnamurti, Thomas Acquinas, Bodhidharma, Basho, Al-Hallaj, Meister Eckhart, and yes, even Bob Marley, brought considerable vitality to their traditions and inspiration to those to whom they communicated their "Vision."

Just a thought.

Varuna

Good point..
And what did they see?

Occam suggests they saw a god that was reason/love/logic/compassion.

Everything we have in our hands.
All we need do is live by them.

To weild ourselves as beings in ballance. Where Heart and Mind are in unity.
Maybe those great humans simply saw. What we can be.

Occam