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Old 12-26-2004, 06:06 PM   #1
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Default HBWR.. india instead of hawaii...

are the ones from india any good? ive seen that they are a little bit smaller...

so would you need to take a larger dose of them?


and also.. its it worth the trouble of extraction? or should I just eat the seeds becuase it not that many of them...
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Old 12-27-2004, 01:42 AM   #2
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the size doesn't matter. I've never tried HBWR from india before but they should be basically the same. Even if the seeds are from the same region they still vary in potency. As with other things if this is your first time doing them then start with a small dose then work your way up. As far as extraction, I personally don't think extracting woodrose to be worth the trouble. The cold water extractions IMHO are a complete waste of time, it adds volume and the taste is horrible. A polar/nonpolar extraction wouldn't be that bad, not a pain in the ass and a decent end product. In my opinion the best way is just to grind your dose then put it in gelcaps. http://www.erowid.org has some good info on HBWR
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Old 12-27-2004, 06:23 PM   #3
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alright cool.. i've got 100 coming in the mail.... I only ordered some cuase 1) I like trying new shit, and if its legal.. even more reason to try it... and 2) not sure If I'll be able to find any illegal psychedelics this month, becuase i have the whole month off so I got nothing to do.. i'm a season'd psychonaut so i'm not expecting to be blown away lol.. but then again I thought that with salvia..



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Old 12-27-2004, 11:02 PM   #4
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these are fucking great...

I've been eating them frequently... as a mushroom head, I often wanted to introduce others (who were ready) to the psychedelic scene, I find these to be a beauitiful and amazing avenue to introduce people to enthenogens. Once you pass the 3 hour "entrance exam" they have... the trip is amazing and "user friendly". I love them myself, they can be an amazing buddha trip... pure zen.

If you want to extract, look into the 200 proof ethenol extractions... those seem most effecient and avaliable...

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Old 12-28-2004, 05:37 AM   #5
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theres this one kid i'm sorta friends with (we drifted apart when i started getting heavy into psychedelics) but hes showing intrest in experiencing more then what he has (which is basically nothing in my opinion except for a lil bit when we tripped together sorta) but anways i've started by having him doing a ton of research.. i told him to read the psychedelic experience so much that he can read the whole thing in one day (that really helped me imprint it into my subcon.) plus I want to train someone else to help guide me when I get around to completly dosing myself out to the max.. we're thinking of using his dad's campsite as a refuge for it all.. like go up for weekends do some fishing and shit.. perfecting our psychonaut abilities and exploring the universe as space cowboys.. i mean hes still never had an inward shift so i dont want to make too many future plans here... but it would be sweet to have our own miniture version of millbrook heheh

he's done mushrooms a lot (one time i gave him some for a phish show and he freaked out and lost it... lol.. had to chase him through the crowd as he took off running.... but he never really wanted to talk about it, he just said it became all too much.. but i think cuase he felt bad cuase it really brought my trip down too and I was on a couple of hits of the best acid Ive ever had)

I wanna get him to smoke some salvia.. just starting with low strength and small hits just to get him familar with the loose-ness of the mind and the feel of it all...

he also did acid once with me.. one of my largest doses and he was on half of what i was on and somehow a party started at his house and we didnt know why.. and I was completly gone and I opened my eyes and found myself in a room with like a dozen ppl all looking at me wierd.. god i thought i was gonna bug out that time...but i was able to escape, but not before i got paranoid.. tho I do remember everyone was making fun of me (maybe not true tho) becuase i think yellow submarine was on the tele and its all about love and shit... they were all calling me a fag and gay and shit... heh i remember all these people.. some girls I had been best friends with.. there too.. I remember wanted to cry about it and I did inside.. ever since then I dont have any real friends.. I wont take them.. i wont trust them.. and i dont want them...but maybe none of that really happened but it doesnt matter.. i came out from within and was instantly reprogrammed by the setting.. that was worse then my trip to hell which seemed to last a week...


holy shit.. did i get way off topic or what...

oh wait its my own post.. i can do that and not feel bad

but anyway i hope these go good...plus i'm looking for something easy to get that I can just take a small dose and have it act like a euphorian or mood enhancer and whatnot, something to help me get through workdays lol...
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Old 01-19-2005, 09:55 PM   #6
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I got some HBWR seeds form amsterdam recently and obviously got ripped off. They definately were the right seeds but had no fuzz, and were paler than what I tripped on before. These seeds are great, but I dunno about small doses getting you through work. These things make you really sick but it's so worth it.
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Old 01-20-2005, 04:38 AM   #7
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seeds from hawaii are the highest quality as far as consistency and overall potency, but those i've had from india were also fine. NEVER buy seeds that were imported from ghana, however; very low levels of alkaloids.
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