Pretty Little Liar

We've suggested her mother might want to seek some counseling for her but she won't do it because she thinks it will stigmatize her and make her think something is "wrong" with her.

But there IS something wrong with her. Children lying is natural but compulsive lying with a complete disregard for others is not. And she can only be stigmatized (is that a word?) by others if she chooses to tell others that she is in therapy. She needs to keep it a secret and work through it, because for all the child knows, she might not even realizing she's doing something wrong. It's a hard situation to deal with, because if she's like my sister and seeking negative attention, the appropriate response would be to ignore it and not give her attention, but if she's not seeking negative attention, if you ignore her behavior she will never learn that what she is doing is not the correct thing to do. I think therapy would be the best way to get to the root of that issue

I've been hearing a commercial on the radio every day for months now about the 'Total Transformation Program'.

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They say it's free if you give them your feedback on it.

I called the number and they said it does deal with liars.

Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Justin_Hale

I've been hearing a commercial on the radio every day for months now about the 'Total Transformation Program'.

http://www.thetotaltransformation.co...source=ratings

They say it's free if you give them your feedback on it.

I called the number and they said it does deal with liars.

Hope this helps.

Thanks, Justin.

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Not the route we will choose but it might be of interest to someone else reading this.

Originally Posted by Aerianne

Seized, I'm concerned that this little girl is headed down that same path and I'm just worried that nothing is going to change for the better.

Seized menitoned that negative attention seemed to be better than none.

You mentioned sending her to her room, but further, I think, you might consider trying to be emotionless in handing out punishments for lying..... So that it's sort of emotional time out for it.

It's a very simple, logical problem that a lot of people develop, but it's amazingly frustratingly hard to break it, with how self-reinforcing it can be.

Originally Posted by RooRshack

Seized menitoned that negative attention seemed to be better than none.

You mentioned sending her to her room, but further, I think, you might consider trying to be emotionless in handing out punishments for lying..... So that it's sort of emotional time out for it.

Hmmm, that's a thought. I hate having to be on guard like that around kids but I will give this a try.

So, today I got a long letter of apology from my step-granddaughter. Grandpa had talked to her about the situation for a little while and her letter pretty much repeated everything they had just talked about.

It was a good letter. It's like she "got" it while their discussion was fresh on her mind.

Now that I've thought about it, I'm going to make a copy to give back to her for her to hang on her bedroom wall. She needs it to refer to.

Originally Posted by Aerianne

This girl worries me. She just doesn't have that innocence that kids are supposed to have.

Besides the lying, she's been kind of violent to some other family kids. She bit the toe of one of her triplet sisters when they were only about 2 months old. She broke the skin and it bled alot. Then with her male cousin, who was only about 4 or 5 at the time, she grabbed his testicles and squeezed so hard that he had to go to the emergency room.

You don't really think she was capable of vindictive and intentional action at two months old do you?


Crotch grabs saturate "comedy" media. No great surprise there.

Originally Posted by drumminmama

You don't really think she was capable of vindictive and intentional action at two months old do you?


Crotch grabs saturate "comedy" media. No great surprise there.

No. The baby sister that she bit was 2 months old and she was almost 5. And the crotch "grab" was not comical. It was a crushing, enduring, squeeze. She was almost 7 when she delivered that.

I didn't say the grab was comical. I was pointing out that kicking and grabbing is used in "comedy" so much that the move is culturally embedded. I'd guess she had lots of tv access, or the adults around her watched a lot.