Vaccines for children

The diseases that common vaccines protect against haven't been eradicated, they just aren't common anymore because everyone has been vaccinated.herd immunity.

My opinion is to do your own research and check your sources very carefully. In most cases its the additives that worry people, in which case maybe there are alternatives?

If you have a girl the one vaccine I would really be concerned with is gardisil, which they wont try to push on you until adolescence.

Originally Posted by Meliai

The diseases that common vaccines protect against haven't been eradicated, they just aren't common anymore because everyone has been vaccinated.herd immunity.

Exactly and with the few that aren't protected anymore some of these are making a come back.

I remember there was a Law and Order episode where I had the interesting element of a kid not vaccinated and passed it onto baby the baby then died. But it brought up interesting points.

Originally Posted by GoofyGooberz

Exactly and with the few that aren't protected anymore some of these are making a come back.

I remember there was a Law and Order episode where I had the interesting element of a kid not vaccinated and passed it onto baby the baby then died. But it brought up interesting points.

there are all sorts of situations like that parents should consider. What if the child ever needs to travel internationally... Herd immunity will only protect someone in a country where vaccinations are the norm.

True but an informed traveler would know what countries have higher risks. Even as adults going there you need your vaccine again.

If ui had children i would never get my children vaccines especially the side effects

there is a PBS Frontline documentary on the subject called "The Vaccine War" which you might want to look at.

http://video.pbs.org/video/1479321646


I can't help but conclude that it is much safer to vaccinate than to not vaccinate, a conclusion that has overwhelming support in the medical community.

There is a problem of people believing stuff that they read on line that doesn't have credibility. The medical community, however, has also shot itself in the foot by compromising its integrity. It has been common practice, for example, for medical researchers to allow pharmaceutical companies to ghost write research papers for them. Dangerous drugs have been given FDA approval due to political pressure from companies. Further, alternative treatments, even ones whose efficacy is supported by clinical evidence, are often ignored or rejected.

The medical community has failed to do its job - financial, political, and cultural priorities have often trumped the interests of the public. However, we may face a graver threat from a total rejection of conventional medical opinion.

e7m8:

You hit the nail on the head. Thanks for saving me from having to write a lot more

Meliai:

There really aren't alternatives to some of the additives in the vaccines, at least none that you can get now. If they change the ingredient in the vaccine, they have to re-test it to ensure it has the same efficacy. The reason the proteins are there is because the virus needs a protein to bind to in order for it to be developed in the lab and for your body to recognize it and build a defense against it, hence the chicken embryo in flu shots and other stuff. The rest of the stuff is typically preservatives to ensure the virus remains in it's desired state throughout shipping and storage.

Another thing these anti-vac people have to consider, is that even if some of the ingredients would be considered poisonous at certain amounts, you have to take into consideration the dosage. The kid is getting a few mLs at MOST. Nothing in the vaccine is potent enough at that dosage to pose such any grave threat, save for allergic reactions, but your kid could have an allergic reaction to any number of things (are you going to deny them peanut butter their whole lives in case they might develop an allergy?). Tylenol is deadly at a large enough dose, it doesn't mean it isn't safe at all.

As for autism, there is most likely a genetic link to it. That's not the same thing as hereditary, mind you. But people with autism have gone on to have some of their kids have autism. And in Utah, there was one non-autistic couple that had 6 kids--and ALL 6 of them had autism. There's something going on that we don't fully understand yet, but it's WAY more complex than any reaction from a vaccine.

Originally Posted by e7m8

I can't help but conclude that it is much safer to vaccinate than to not vaccinate, a conclusion that has overwhelming support in the medical community.

The medical community, which receives its funding from?

Originally Posted by Pressed_Rat

The medical community, which receives its funding from?

As I acknowledge in my post, the medical community has allowed money to influence its decisions, and this has undermined its credibility. The medical community therefor bears some of the responsibility for the vaccine crisis in its failure to uphold its own credibility.

It's a mistake, however, to reject everything that the medical community says even though that community is deeply flawed. If your doctor told you that you were going to die unless you took an antibiotic, or some other pill, would you not take it? Would you just assume that anything the pharmaceutical industry produces is useless or poison, and that research that says that a drug can save lives must be false?

Originally Posted by Strawberry_Fields_Fo

e7m8:

You hit the nail on the head. Thanks for saving me from having to write a lot more

hey thanks!