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Old 05-09-2004, 06:25 AM   #1
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Smile hare krishna

hare krishna is the eldest religion in the world. It came in the form of Vedas 5000 years ago. The goal is to love Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhea.d I mean not just saying that, but actually feeling that is the point. In fact, hare krishna isn't religion at all, because it doesn apply any dogmas on people. The only point is to find out by yourself, that you are not this material body and this world is temporary and full of threefold miseries :death, illness, old age.
the best method how to obtain the state, where you can love Sri Krishna is to chant mahamantra. it goes like this:
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Old 05-09-2004, 06:29 AM   #2
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I find Hare Krishna-ness fastinating. I LOVE the chants. a lot. But i dunno it just sounds like there is more concentration on the miseries of living here. I, personally, decide to be joyous of life, its an honor to be here (even if its challenging as feck sometimes, but we came in being perfectly aware and willing of that).

There are worse things than suffering in my opinion. Like stagnation.

I wish i had some more Krishan chants though. Govinda Hare is my favorite.
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Old 05-09-2004, 07:30 AM   #3
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hare.
krishna.

two words that have whatever meaning with which you choose to imbue them.

say nothing, and you will come to the same conclusions. don't give it a name, and it is still the same thing.

and if death, illness, and old age are so horrible, why not just kill yourself now, and give it all back to "krishna". you enjoy life more than you like to admit friend.



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Old 05-09-2004, 07:57 AM   #4
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they gave me a free meal once... i was just walking down the street, saw an open door, looked in, and this family in robes and forehead dots asked me to have dinner. Says I: Cool! Thanks!
They asked me to come to their farm the next day as they were worshipping their first cow. i had to work, so I politely declined.
some people say they have no regrets. i think they're liers.
if i'm gonna worship something, it might as well be a cow... er,
maybe pig, I love bacon!
i wish i had gone to the cow worshipping.
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Old 05-09-2004, 08:38 PM   #5
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Default Suffering ends even in this world

To kill yourself is an offence to Lord Krishna, because it's like as though you were God yourself. We did lot of bad things -not because we wanted, just out of ignorance. If you think you're God, can you be beyond ignorance?

Suffering ends in this world if you develop sincere love to Sri Krishna. That is to be, who you really are -without egotism. Instead of loving yourself, love Sri Krishna, The supreme Personality of Godhead, who is everything and in everyone.
I know that this can be a great hook on desperate people to say that this is suffering and the only way is to be one of our religion. But as I said hare krishna is not a religion as we know it. The goal is to serve and think of Krishna, nothing more. We are all his parcels, therefore the divine or shall we say godish is contained in us, but as beams from the sun are not the sun itself, we are not God.

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Old 05-09-2004, 10:05 PM   #6
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suffering is ignored. this does not mean that it ends.

a marked difference.

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Old 05-09-2004, 10:21 PM   #7
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whoa. I'm not a liar and i have not a single regret. I don't believe in regrets, what a strange use of energy, living in the past instead of living in the now. Every single thing, big or small, trivial or no, embarassing or painful or otherwise, its all made me the person i am right this second. And i am glad of that. I learn from everything i do, though.

And to who said something about... Okay well i forget, but i also know that we are all part of the same thing. We are all part of, we all ARE all-that-is. We are all God. We are not the supreme god above everyone else, cuz we are ALL god.

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Old 05-10-2004, 01:15 PM   #8
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Hare Krishna !

Dear all,

Krishna is the icon of unconditional love of highest degree. When love obtains that intensity it is known as 'prem'. This prem does not discriminate, it does not see good or bad, it does not see religion, race or creed, it can not be bound by boundaries or limits. It envelops everything like what a deluge does.

Krishna tells us about that love and how to develop it. He never talked about any religion. He never criticizes us rather He gives us hopes and tells us that no matter how we are today we can definitely try and improve ourselves to get dissolved into the ocean of His divinity. He also tells us how we can do it.

With love............kumar.
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so again even krishna seems to refute the necessity of his "krishna"-ness. he doesn;t seem to care what you call him, or seem to be a "he" at all, but just a feeling, and emanation, a spirit, flowing through. the questions, answers, representations are all written and discussed by and in the minds of humans.

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Old 05-10-2004, 09:02 PM   #10
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NAMASTE AND HARI BOL


The fisrt is SANATANA DHARMA as being the fisrt and oldist.From this yes VASNAVAS SHIVITES And so for arise so i understand.
Though to me it is not who is the oldist but how it leads us to the divine.
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