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Old 10-05-2010, 12:59 AM   #1
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What is the best strain of Kratom for euphoria
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Hi, ive been experimenting with kratom, and i'm looking for that good euphoric feeling, without TOO much success,. I guess from what i've been reading,the powder is the way to go, not an extract or resin? I took oxycontin for a time, and that's the high i would like to at least come close to, any ideas?
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:37 AM   #2
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Sorry I can't answer your question but I would like to know if it is even possible to reach an oxycodone-like high from kratom.
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I only used the extract. When combined with weed it's very pleasurable but I don't think it'll compare to oxycodone.
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really euphoria only sets in after a high dosage. I tend to use the powder and make hte tea, bc I can stomach the bitterness, but truly any kind will do. Just make sure you got a good legitimate vendor.
2-6 grams = mild effects (typically the effects are stimulant-like)
7-15 grams = medium strength effects (the effects can be stimulant-like or sedative-euphoric-analgesic)
16-25 grams = strong effects (sedative-euphoric-analgesic effects; too strong for highly sensitive people)
26-50 grams = very strong effects (sedative-euphoric-analgesic effects; TOO STRONG FOR MOST PEOPLE)

I agree with this dosage chart.
I usually do about 17 grams for a good high dosage, for a low mild dosage I do about 6 grams.
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Its qualitatively quite different from oxycodone. There is definitely something there that feels like an opiate (mu binding and activation) but its mixed in with noise (misc. albeit low level pharmacological activity) and binding to the less pleasureable opioid receptors. There are some subtle differences among the strains but it is basically a numbers crunch to get the best buy. I've tried the super extracts, i.e. 500x (the fold notation is only somewhat meaningful), 60x, 15x, resin, obsidianesque extract, powdered leaf single strain, and a few others. I am tempted to try an mitragynine or actually a mitragynine/7-oh mitragynine isolate, because theoretically it might be a great deal, and to see if it has a cleaner more pleasureable feeling.
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really euphoria only sets in after a high dosage. I tend to use the powder and make hte tea, bc I can stomach the bitterness, but truly any kind will do. Just make sure you got a good legitimate vendor.
2-6 grams = mild effects (typically the effects are stimulant-like)
7-15 grams = medium strength effects (the effects can be stimulant-like or sedative-euphoric-analgesic)
16-25 grams = strong effects (sedative-euphoric-analgesic effects; too strong for highly sensitive people)
26-50 grams = very strong effects (sedative-euphoric-analgesic effects; TOO STRONG FOR MOST PEOPLE)

I agree with this dosage chart.
I usually do about 17 grams for a good high dosage, for a low mild dosage I do about 6 grams.
Holy shit, is this for extract or regular? I had 3g of what I believe was extracted (don't remember potency) and it had me feeling pretty good but only for about 45 minutes. From the way 3g felt, I think I would have blacked out if I had over 9g of it. Maybe it's because I have no opiate tolerance whatsoever, but i know 15mg hydrocodone does nothing for me, so I'm going off of that...
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a couple drops of FST can compare to OC
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a couple drops of FST can compare to OC
A couple too many drops of FST can kill you.
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A couple too many drops of FST can kill you.
2 drops, to be precise, no more. And with a tolerance. I'm thinking of buying a vial or two actually...

Yeah I've read some pretty bad stories about ODs on that shit. I believe it's 150g 15x kratom condensed into 2ml tincture (8drops/2ml per vial). Someone with a very high tolerance (heroin, etc.) had around 6 or more drops and died IIRC
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2 drops, to be precise, no more. And with a tolerance. I'm thinking of buying a vial or two actually...

Yeah I've read some pretty bad stories about ODs on that shit. I believe it's 150g 15x kratom condensed into 2ml tincture (8drops/2ml per vial). Someone with a very high tolerance (heroin, etc.) had around 6 or more drops and died IIRC
WHAT???? 2 drops will have you on a heroin level???
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