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Old 06-19-2010, 02:26 AM   #1
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Do we need a Federal government in the USA
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At the time the US was founded the Federal government was necessary. The reason for this was that we didn't have infrastruction. When something came up we needed somebody on the scene, in Washington, to make decisions. Today with our advanced communications our state governments could easily vote on pertainint issues and make those quick decisions as they arise. As a bonus, it's easier to keep track of state government.

So what do ya think?
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Why stop there? It's even easier to keep track of a city/town council...
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Old 06-19-2010, 02:50 AM   #3
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Why stop there? It's even easier to keep track of a city/town council...
Excellent point. Folks like to talk about democracy, which is a great system. But for it to work wouldn't we have to place the greater power with the smaller groups? Each town having precedent to veto county or state law. Counties in turn having power over state. Is that democracy or anarchy?

Is there a system in which the opinions of each individual are represented while the rights of each individual are upheld?
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Excellent point. Folks like to talk about democracy, which is a great system. But for it to work wouldn't we have to place the greater power with the smaller groups? Each town having precedent to veto county or state law. Counties in turn having power over state. Is that democracy or anarchy?

Is there a system in which the opinions of each individual are represented while the rights of each individual are upheld?
Well, lets see where it would lead... each town would have to have a militia to protect itself seems there would be no federal standing military... each of those militia's would be under the control of the mayor...

Of course, mayor is such a silly title for someone that important (the most important person left with no federal or state governments)... so how about something that has a nice ring to it?

Like...

Warlord...

Yeah... that's a good name...

Hmmm Warlords sorta rings a bell... I wonder where I could have heard that before?

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...865255,00.html
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At the time the US was founded the Federal government was necessary. The reason for this was that we didn't have infrastruction. When something came up we needed somebody on the scene, in Washington, to make decisions. Today with our advanced communications our state governments could easily vote on pertainint issues and make those quick decisions as they arise. As a bonus, it's easier to keep track of state government.

So what do ya think?
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Old 08-15-2010, 01:12 PM   #6
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yes

i live in a very conservative state; they would pay no taxes, and thus provide no services, if they could

fortunately the feds send money so the roads get fixed, the disabled get help, etc.

we would also probably have a whole slew of weird social ideas let loose without the feds to keep things "normal"

the federal government: can't live with it, can't live without it . . .
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Old 08-15-2010, 07:12 PM   #7
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When you ask if we need the federal government you're asking if the United States should exist, and yes it should. The federal government is the United States, otherwise you have 50 independent countries.

Not to mention the federal government was created to make infrastructure, power in numbers. The states formed a confederation of one country to unite and move forward. Then we realized the states as a whole just like individual politicians were giant babies and couldn't be trusted with more power than the federal government otherwise nothing would ever get done, and hence the constitution was made to replace the articles of confederation.

Pre civil-war, aside from slavery, infrastructure building, especially that of canals was actually a severely political issue, with the south greatly opposed to it as they saw it was money being spent that only helped the industrialized north.
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