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Old 01-26-2010, 06:48 PM   #1
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LSD vs. Mescaline vs. Psilocybin
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This is a callout to all the veteran trippers out there. What is the difference between the trip experienced by these 3 different alkaloids? I'm not talking in terms of psyiological effects such as duration or side effects. Out of the 3 i've only had experience with psilocybin and i know it makes you really confused but you feel confused at how your thoughts are SO clear. And that it makes things appear to be breathing or slowly moving, and colours softly but quickly change throughout the rainbow. These are effects that i've felt and i know it's hard to accurately describe such a subjective experience but any sort of table of effects type thing would be pretty cool and would help out A LOT.
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i love mescaline

cleanest, most organized visual trip ever
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:11 AM   #3
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LSD:

POSITIVE
  • increase in energy (stimulation)
  • increase in associative & creative thinking
  • mood lift
  • increased awareness & appreciation of music
  • increased awareness of senses (eating, drinking, smell)
  • closed and open eye visuals
  • life-changing spiritual experiences
  • therapeutic psychological reflection
  • feeling of oceanic connectedness to the universe; blurring of boundaries between self and other

NEUTRAL
  • general change in consciousness
  • pupil dilation
  • difficulty focusing
  • increased salivation and mucus production (causes coughing in some people)
  • unusual body sensations (facial flushing, chills, goosebumps, body energy)
  • unusual thoughts and speech
  • change in perception of time
  • quickly changing emotions (happiness, fear, gidiness, anxiety, anger, joy, irritation)
  • slight increase in body temperature
  • slight increase in heart rate
  • increase in yawning (without being tired)

NEGATIVE
  • anxiety
  • tension, jaw tension
  • increased perspiration
  • difficulty regulating body temperature
  • nausea
  • dizziness, confusion
  • insomnia
  • megalomania
  • over-awareness & over-sensitization to music and noise
  • paranoia, fear, and panic
  • unwanted and overwhelming feelings
  • unwanted life-changing spiritual experiences
  • flashbacks




Mushrooms:

POSITIVE
  • mood lift, euphoria
  • giggling, laughter, giddiness
  • creative, philosophical or deep thinking : ideas flow more easily
  • boring tasks or entertainment can become more interesting or funny
  • sensation of insight
  • life-changing spiritual experience
  • intense feelings of wonder
  • paradoxical feeling of a normalcy and deep alteration of psyche
  • may interrupt cluster sequences in those suffering from cluster headaches [ Cluster Headache Treatment ]

NEUTRAL
  • feeling more emotionally sensitive
  • general change in consciousness (as with many psychoactives)
  • time perception alteration [ Wittmann 2006 ]
  • time seems to pass more slowly (minutes seem to take hours)
  • sensitivity to light; lights seem brighter
  • starring and rainbow patterns around pinpoint lights
  • increased detection of motion in peripheral vision
  • closed-eye visuals (common at medium or stronger dose)
  • sleepiness, lethargy
  • pupil dilation
  • sensation of energy or buzzing in the nevous system/peripheral limbs
  • memories come to life

NEGATIVE
  • intense feelings of fear
  • headache, usually as effects wear off, sometimes beginning the next day, lasting for up to 24 hours
  • nausea, gas, gastrointestinal discomfort, especially when mushrooms are eaten raw and/or dry
  • mild to severe anxiety
  • dizziness, confusion
  • lightheadedness or fainting (in cases of lowered blood pressure)
  • can precipitate or exacerbate latent or existing mental disorders
  • working memory disruption (reduced ability to do tasks requiring current remembering and attention) [ Wittmann 2006 ]



Cactus:

POSITIVE
  • feelings of insight
  • brightening of colors
  • closed and open eye visuals
  • euphoria1
  • laughter
  • increase in energy (stimulation)
  • enhanced tactile sensation
  • happy, dreamy feelings1
  • feelings of hope or rejuvination1
  • increased access to spiritual ideation; deep esoteric experiences1

NEUTRAL
  • general change in consciousness (as with most psychoactives)
  • loss of appetite
  • change in body temperature regulation
  • unusual thoughts and speech
  • unusual focus on either small details or large concepts; changes in meaning or significance of experiences1
  • mild to extreme distractability1
  • changes in perception of time1
  • changes in perception of "reality"
  • changes in self control1
  • unusual body sensations (facial flushing, chills, goosebumps, body energy)
  • ego softening
  • pupil dilation1
  • body tremors1
  • urge to urinate1 (in early stages of experience)
  • restlessness

NEGATIVE
  • (likelihood of negative side effects increases with higher doses)
  • nausea and/or vomiting
  • chest and neck pain1 (in early stages of experience)
  • shortness of breath1
  • uncomfortable changes in body temperature (sweating/chills)
  • confusion, difficulty concentrating, problems with activities requiring linear focus
  • difficulty communicating1
  • inhibition of sex drive
  • insomnia
  • unpleasant or frightening visions
  • unwanted and overwhelming feelings, depression, anxiety
  • paranoia, fear, and panic


from erowid. they are all very different, yet like all psychs, quite similar. though ive never done cacti/mescaline. But these are the three ambassadors from the three biggest families of drugs; the tryptamines, phenethylamines, and ergolines.
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I can't speak for mescaline though I hear it's the most intense in terms of the psychedelic effects.

As for acid, acid feels much cleaner then shrooms. Your body feels light, the open eye visuals are much more vivid and numerous, yet at the same time clear cut. Your thought processes are also much more linear and functional, everything from reading/typing to conversating in real life to other people is easier.
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That mescaline description sounds like DOx... sweet!
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ACID is the best...
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:27 AM   #8
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Ive never really understood what people mean when they say one psychedelic is more intense than another? Isn't it all about dosage? And each psych can be as intense or as tame as one wants?
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It's true that it's all related to dosage, it's just taken as a comparison of ("standard dose of Drug A" with "standard dose of Drug B". So like, 1-2 hits of acid = 2-4g mushrooms? i believe the vast majority of acid users have never taken more than 2 or 3 hits.
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LSD - cerebral
mushrooms - emotional
peyote - sensational
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