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04-17-2009, 02:19 AM
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The Cynical Flower Girl
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Drugs a moral issue?
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Person who takes recreational drugs = scumbag
Do you agree with this? Why or why not?
Why is there such a negative connotation with people who believe in legalization of marijuana, acid, etc. that makes them so disgusting to the masses?
Is it because of the war on drugs? ("DRUGS ARE BAD!" Does anyone ask why?)
Is it because of the issue of legality? (Letting the government think for you?)
Is it jealously? ("Life is hard for everyone. Why should he have an escape and not me?")
Is it the lack of productivity associated with stoners, etc? ("They just sit on the couch all day. Why don't they get a job?")
Is it fear? ("I don't know what they will do to me, so I'm going to stay away and everyone else should too!")
Everyone know that drugs can kill you. Everyone knows that most drugs are addictive. Everyone knows that most drugs are illegal. But does taking them really make you an evil person? A stupid person? A reckless person? A person with mental problems? Or are you just smart enough to understand moderation and come to your own conclusions? Obviously, you can't group everyone into the same category.
I am not advocating drug use (I do not use any drug at all except alcohol and that is only very rarely and intelligently-- yes, I paid attention in health class), but I am advocating the right of an adult to choose, providing it is an informed decision. I don't believe in the war on drugs. I think it's counterproductive to the drug problem, just like abstinence education is counterproductive to teen pregnancy and STD prevention. The difference I suppose is, teen sex is not illegal (until age is a factor, but that's neither here nor there), but to what degree is legality an issue? Laws can be changed. Why, not too long ago, there were laws allowing the beating of women and children (in some places they are still in place), but that doesn't mean they were/are right.
I've written you a book here, but I was thinking about this for a while, and the thread in RT about drug addiction and overdose got me to thinking I should post it and get a discussion going.
So, let's hear some opinions. While I have my own, I would love to hear some other viewpoints. It's really puzzled me forever...
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04-17-2009, 03:00 AM
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I believe the legalization of most drugs. And not all are drugs are bad for you to a certain degree.
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04-17-2009, 03:40 AM
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recreational drugs are against my morals because i believe it's immoral to harm my health, which i believe drugs do. but i still believe they should be legalized cuz you can't legislate morality...and because we each have the right to make our own moral decisions when no one else is harmed by our decision. i do believe in taxing the hell out of them though in cases where users often end up a burden on the system...which we all pay for.
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04-17-2009, 02:33 PM
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The Cynical Flower Girl
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Like cigarettes. I can dig that.
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04-29-2009, 06:47 PM
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for some people it's pot (my case), for others it's alcohol, gambling, sex, chocolate, cigarettes, listening to music, etc etc etc ...
Everyone's entitles to their own fix every now and then, and it's different for all of us.. provided none of them are taken to an extreme, it's fine imo.
So, yeah, I think it would be silly to assume that someone who does recreational drugs is a scumbag.
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04-30-2009, 01:17 AM
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The Cynical Flower Girl
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And yet, the majority insists on it. Why?
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04-30-2009, 03:12 AM
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Because the majority is full of arrogant fuck wits that won't ever experience anything worth experienceing. There are alot of people in the world. How can you expect them all to understand truth?
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05-03-2009, 06:07 PM
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The Cynical Flower Girl
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But they all seem so sure of themselves. Where are they now to defend their position? I'm really surprised I'm not getting more opposition...
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05-05-2009, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FireflyInTheDark
But they all seem so sure of themselves. Where are they now to defend their position? I'm really surprised I'm not getting more opposition...
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I think it has something to do with the fact that you're asking the question on a Hip forum..
If you want opposition, post the question in one of those ultra right wing christian fundamental forums, like theologyonline.com .
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05-05-2009, 06:21 PM
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The Cynical Flower Girl
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO rabble rousing! I like it! 
Haha, I might try that...
And I know it was the risk I took posting here, but I HAVE seen differing opinions on drugs on this forum before (maybe not THIS one in particular, but on the whole site), so I thought maybe the Ethics section would be neutral ground somehow... Guess not.
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