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Old 07-29-2008, 07:04 PM   #21
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Good post I came back to first time signing on in over week anyways from my knowledge and from my test I have done over the years form Bags of dope in New York city and upstate New York A Bundle is sapose to be equal to a gram like a few have said on hear the average stamp bag is sapose to be .1 ? But as we all know thats bull shit.Just look at your average bundle some bags are packed big some are small. Same thing with different stamped bags or from dealer to dealer. one block will have some bags that are huge but th shit is garbage others will have small bags but the shit rocks. Shit that bags of the Dope I got a few weeks ago The Hulk was crazy how different some of the bags were packed. Some looked double in size to the others. So in my best guess I would say the average bundle of dope of the street usally weighs anywhere from .7 up all the way up to 1.4 the average being about a gram though ????? And as for the whole how much dope is equal to a a 80mg OC-man does that question come up alot between people I have heard do many peole ask that question over the years. I would say whp knows you can only to a average becasue like I said Herion purity varies so much What I do know is this 2 things that might relate and help, Back in the day when I had a habbit and could not get a ride into the Bronx or the nearest local Ghetto town to buy a bag I had to buy OC's instead in my town, I was doing about 4 to 5 bags on the average of dope a day. one 80mg OC would only keep me straight for the morning up until mid afternoon and then I would start feeling a little like shit again. As for methadone they say you average bag of dope on the streets is 50% pure 15mg to 20mg's of Methaodne is equal to one bag of your average dope thats what most experts and clinics go buy ? And hear comes to whole purity thing into play again so in my opinion how can you go buy that like I said above purity from one stamp to another is hardly ever the same. Shit in New York and Philly the DEA did some test they would buy bags from dope dealers and spots all over and have them tested some bags purity was in the mid teens like 15% pure others were as high as 93% pure, So when it comes to OC's and comparing them to dope you really can't do it at all in my opinion you just have to go buy how much OC makes you feel good when using it. If you can't get sope and can only get OC's or ant other hard opiate pills I would say there is no exact amount to take that will equal your normal dope dose you will have to experiment to see yourself what makes you feel good ?????
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:00 PM   #22
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exactly start with tiny bits increase gradually until u knw ur dose. i do it with every bag to prevent OD. btw shocbomb im stayin in a hotel for 10 days with a girl n all i wanna do is smoke weed n speedball. what shall i get to last me for 10 days? an ounce of weed, an 8ball of coke n a bundle of dope? do u recommend adding other stuff to enhance my drugs vacation? lol ecstasy? ketamine? dunno i only miss the classics hash, coke n dope... if only i could get some acid...
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:50 AM   #23
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Just my experience. I've been doing OC for about a year and raw (powder heroin) for about 6 months.

If you have a decent OC tol, raw wont hit you that hard at all. Compared to an 80, raw has maybe 1/3 the initial rush then it just goes away. I always feel like I need more and more. One .1 bag is like 15-20 dollars, but if you have a decent tol, especially if it takes 1 whole 80 to fuck you up, your gonna need proboly around 3-5 bags to feel it even compare to an 80. The only comparable effect I get is raw chills me out and if I do enough I get pretty fuckin noddy. But theres no crazy rush like you get snorting an 80.

The numbers arent all exact because purity varies but this is what I know personally.
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:11 AM   #24
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i copped a shit load of blue wax bags in boston. their bomb. 2 bags had me noding off sunday. weighed less than .1 each too. 10 bags unbagged weighed .8. i can sniff a 80 in 1 sitting. and a shit load over a night.
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:15 AM   #25
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and 15$ and 20$ a bag is rediculous. i pay like 450$ for 1000 bags of the best shit ive ever seen. and local garbage is 2/3 that price for a pack.
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:26 AM   #26
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Just my experience. I've been doing OC for about a year and raw (powder heroin) for about 6 months.

If you have a decent OC tol, raw wont hit you that hard at all. Compared to an 80, raw has maybe 1/3 the initial rush then it just goes away. I always feel like I need more and more. One .1 bag is like 15-20 dollars, but if you have a decent tol, especially if it takes 1 whole 80 to fuck you up, your gonna need proboly around 3-5 bags to feel it even compare to an 80. The only comparable effect I get is raw chills me out and if I do enough I get pretty fuckin noddy. But theres no crazy rush like you get snorting an 80.

The numbers arent all exact because purity varies but this is what I know personally.
holy shit man. This is good to know thanks. I mean, I know I'll never know exactly until I try it because of purity and everyone has different tolerance, but atleast this gives me some sort of picture as to how they may compare.
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:44 PM   #27
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an adverage bag of dope is equivlant to a name brand oc 80...thts just my opinon though...

(THIS WHOLE THEROEY IS PROBABLY WRONG)
i dont know if heroin being diacetylmorphine means its twice the strength of heroin, BUT IF IT IS and it was pure, .1grams(100mgs) of heroin would be equivlant to 133.3mg of oxycodone......cuz 100mg of heroin=200mg of morphine(in my fictional guesstimate) and 20mg of oxycodone= 30mg of morphine, which would mean 200 mg of morphine = 133.3mg's of oxy (THIS WHOLE THEOREY IS PROBABLY WRONG)

and now this whole theoey goes against my feelings that a bag=80mg of oc...

prices in the city 10 a bag, 80ish a bundle...suburbs 20 a bag 150 a bundle...but swim's gettig bundles for 120...



i thought bags were "scooped" in 30mg or 50mg spoons, meaning a bundle would weigh betweem .3 and .5 grams.
Nah oxy's like 2x as potent as morphine, I beleive.

it all depends on tolerance and purity.

You get good shit, and a bag is probably equal to 80MG oxy.

but, the thing is, someone with zero opiate tolerance would most likely die if they railed or shot 80MG oxy, and its not likely a bag of H would kill someone with no tolerance.

But hey, you never know, it all depends on purity, how much you weigh, you're tolerance. Theres no exact formula to how much Oxy=Morphine=Diamorphine.

There is, however, a conversion chart on how much pharmaceutical opiates equal to each other. lemme find it.



Heres that site for more info on Opi conversions

http://www.globalrph.com/fentconv.htm
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:39 PM   #28
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chrome Hound Dude I don't know what type of shitty cut to the gut Herion you are getting man but it does not take no 3 to 5 bags of your normal average dope atleast hear in the New York/New Jeresy area to equal 1 80mg OC, If any thing one bag of dope is usally stronger or almost equal to a 80mg OC. I mean if someone who was using 80MGs of OC's went out and took your advise and sniffed not shoot like you said 3 to 5 bags of dope thinking it was equal to a 80 OC they would probably OD or be real fucked up for a day or so. God Frbif they shoot up that much it would be almost certain they would die, even most hard core users doing over a bundle a day won't shoot over 2 bags at time. And the rush from shooting a OC has nothing what so ever on Dilaudid, I am not fucking with you I am just rying to let you know man if this is the kind of dope you are buying its time to get a new dealer or something becasue its more then likely more cut you are shooting up like Lactose, mannitol,baby laxative then Dope ?
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yeah, that part I didnt believe. half a bundle equal to an 80? thats som crappy H.

damn man, I cant wait to go to north jersey in december, hopefully i'll be able to score dope easily. I cant find that shit no where in my hood down souf.
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chrome Hound Dude I don't know what type of shitty cut to the gut Herion you are getting man but it does not take no 3 to 5 bags of your normal average dope atleast hear in the New York/New Jeresy area to equal 1 80mg OC, If any thing one bag of dope is usally stronger or almost equal to a 80mg OC. I mean if someone who was using 80MGs of OC's went out and took your advise and sniffed not shoot like you said 3 to 5 bags of dope thinking it was equal to a 80 OC they would probably OD or be real fucked up for a day or so. God Frbif they shoot up that much it would be almost certain they would die, even most hard core users doing over a bundle a day won't shoot over 2 bags at time. And the rush from shooting a OC has nothing what so ever on Dilaudid, I am not fucking with you I am just rying to let you know man if this is the kind of dope you are buying its time to get a new dealer or something becasue its more then likely more cut you are shooting up like Lactose, mannitol,baby laxative then Dope ?
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