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Old 01-30-2008, 10:03 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I know the rules say that you can't directly ask for hookups and such, and that's fair enough. I hope this isn't against the rules, but I have a question...

I was surfing the net trying to find ways to get a script. for painkillers written out legitimately from a doctor, by faking it. I know of one thing my friend faked, which was an infection in his testicals, which shows no external symptoms, you just have to be a good actor and be willing to have your balls palpated and x-rayed. The standard perscription for that is twenty 5/500 vicodins and I was going to try this, but I was wondering if you guys knew any other way? I don't want to come off sounding like some pain-med junkie douche, but between having a pilonidal cyst in my back, near my spine and breaking off a piece and dislocating my knee-cap from b-ball when I was 16 a few times (I'm now 23), i have become reasonably addicted to the feeling of opiates being in my blood-stream. It seems as though every year that passes by, i get my hands on them for some reason or another, a couple times. I'm looking for some way to acquire some legitimately through a physician and believe I have come to the right place to ask this...

Any help or advice besides quitting all together (haha), would be VERY greatly appreciated

edit: I'm thinking I may be able to somehow fake more pain with the pilonidal cyst, but seeing as the hole is mostly sealed up now, from the surgeries I had, i'm not sure I could. hmm

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Old 01-30-2008, 10:59 PM   #2
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5/500s lol why would you even want those...

welllll if you live in the south west, Arizona, California ect the doctors basically give out painkillers like lollipops, you could buy some pods(ask in pm plz if people keep on talking about getting them from certain places we soon won't be able to), or you could go to a few parties and try to find a hookup?

just try to get into some opiate forums and once they trust/know you enough they may tell you which doctors are good.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:02 PM   #3
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5/500's are like a last resort, yep. That's why I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to get a better dosage, but i'll settle with 5/500 if I have to. Twenty of them just isn't worth the time to fake it though, I don't think. It takes 4-5 of them to make me feel satisfactory for now. As you can tell, I don't do them very much. It frustrates me that the pharmacies get these things for a matter of a few cents a pill, and we end up having to pay out the ass on the street for them, or have a legit script. in which they are strictly regulated. Sorry, but a dollar per milligram just causes a titanic hole in the wallet.
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Old 01-31-2008, 12:37 AM   #4
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I think doctors are reluctant to give someone in their early 20's strong narcotics because of the potential for addiction. That's not to say they're willing to hand them out to someone who's older but I think you have a better chance then. When I was in grad school and went to the doctor for pain related to a fracture, the only thing they offered to give me was an anti-inflammatory. I think you're better off going to an orthopaedist or pain management specialist and being honest about your knee injury. At least then you can present some documentation of your surgery and it doesn't look like you're trying to score pain killers. 5/500's are really weak, pretty much the weakest thing they'll give you aside from Tylenol with Codeine. I doubt they'll give you Percocet or anything stronger on a regular basis--unless you suffered additional damage to your knee or something--especially if your injury occurred 7 years ago. Even then you will probably only get 30 tablets of 5/325.
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Old 01-31-2008, 12:45 AM   #5
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^Yeah, I figure. I'm looking for something that is just a one-time thing. I'm thinking that irritating the spot where I had 3 surgeries for the pilonidal cyst (it kept re-opening), to make it appear distressed and just complaining about severe internal pain, is my best bet, as i've visited this doctor over 40 times in checkups on it, and never tried scoring pain meds from him before. The knee thing wouldn't get me any unless I actually hurt it again and I'm definitely not willing to do that. Worst pain in the entire world, aside from having a limb amputated, I'm thinking. lol
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Old 01-31-2008, 09:22 AM   #6
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Found this on Craigs list:

Advice from an ER doctor to drug seekers

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Date: 2007-03-27, 9:56AM PDT


OK, I am not going to lecture you about the dangers of narcotic pain medicines. We both know how addictive they are: you because you know how it feels when you don't have your vicodin, me because I've seen many many many people just like you. However, there are a few things I can tell you that would make us both much happier. By following a few simple rules our little clinical transaction can go more smoothly and we'll both be happier because you get out of the ER quicker.

The first rule is be nice to the nurses. They are underpaid, overworked, and have a lot more influence over your stay in the ER than you think. When you are tempted to treat them like shit because they are not the ones who write the rx, remember: I might write for you to get a shot of 2mg of dilaudid, but your behavior toward the nurses determines what percent of that dilaudid is squirted onto the floor before you get your shot.

The second rule is pick a simple, non-dangerous, (non-verifiable) painful condition which doesn't require me to do a four thousand dollar work-up in order to get you out of the ER. If you tell me that you headache started suddenly and is the 'worst headache of your life' you will either end up with a spinal tap or signing out against medical advice without an rx for pain medicine. The parts of the story that you think make you sound pitiful and worthy of extra narcotics make me worry that you have a bleeding aneurysm. And while I am 99% sure its not, I'm not willing to lay my license and my families future on the line for your ass. I also don't want to miss the poor bastard who really has a bleed, so everyone with that history gets a needle in the back. Just stick to a history of your 'typical pain that is totally the same as I usually get' and we will both be much happier.

The third rule (related to #2) is never rate your pain a 10/10. 10/10 means the worst pain you could possibly imagine. I've seen people in a 10/10 pain and you sitting there playing tetris on your cell phone are not in 10/10 pain. 10/10 pain is an open fracture dangling in the wind, a 50% body surface deep partial thickness burn, or the pain of a real cerebral aneurysm. Even when I passed a kidney stone, the worst pain I had was probably a 7. And that was when I was projectile vomiting and crying for my mother. So stick with a nice 7 or even an 8. That means to me you are hurting by you might not be lying. (See below.)

The fourth rule is never ever ever lie to me about who you are or your history. If you come to the ER and give us a fake name so we can't get your old records I will assume you are a worse douchetard than you really are. More importantly though it will really really piss me the fuck off. Pissing off the guy who writes the rx you want does not work to your advantage.

The fifth rule is don't assume I am an idiot. I went to medical school. That is certainly no guarantee that I am a rocket scientist I know (hell, I went to school with a few people who were a couple of french fries short of a happy meal.) However, I also got an ER residency spot which means I was in the top quarter or so of my class. This means it is a fair guess I am a reasonably smart guy. So if I read your triage note and 1) you list allergies to every non-narcotic pain medicine ever made, 2) you have a history of migraines, fibromyalgia, and lumbar disk disease, and 3) your doctor is on vacation, only has clinic on alternate Tuesdays, or is dead, I am smart enough to read that as: you are scamming for some vicodin. That in and of itself won't necessarily mean you don't get any pain medicine. Hell, the fucktards who list and allergy to tylenol but who can take vicodin (which contains tylenol) are at least good for a few laughs at the nurses station. However, if you give that history everyone in the ER from me to the guy who mops the floor will know you are a lying douchetard who is scamming for vicodin. (See rule # 4 about lying.)

The sixth and final rule is wait your fucking turn. If the nurse triages you to the waiting room but brings patients who arrived after you back to be treated first, that is because this is an EMERGENCY room and they are sicker than you are. You getting a fix of vicodin is not more important than the 6 year old with a severe asthma attack. Telling the nurse at triage that now your migraine is giving you chest pain since you have been sitting a half hour in the waiting area to try to force her into taking you back sooner is a recipe for making all of us hate you. Even if you end up coming back immediately, I will make it my mission that night to torment you. You will not get the pain medicine you want under any circumstances. And I firmly believe that if you manipulate your way to the back and make a 19 year old young woman with an ectopic pregnancy that might kill her in a few hours wait even a moment longer to be seen, I should be able to piss in a glass and make you drink it before you leave the ER.

So if you keep these few simple rules in mind, our interaction will go much more smoothly. I don't really give a shit if I give 20 vicodins to a drug-seeker. Before I was burnt out in the ER I was a hippy and I would honestly rather give that to ten of you guys than make one person in real pain (unrelated to withdrawal) suffer. However, if you insist on waving a flourescent orange flag that says 'I am a drug seeker' and pissing me and the nurses off with your behavior, I am less likely to give you that rx. You don't want that. I don't want that. So lets keep this simple, easy, and we'll all be much happier.

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Old 01-31-2008, 09:53 AM   #7
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salmon4me- Great post you dug up from Craigs list, How fucking true man this ER doctor is 100% right. I enjoyd reading that, Thanks man. I would be the same exact way as this Doctor hey if your cool and respect every one and even though your dope sick wait your turn without complaining I would hook you up with a shot of Dilaudid and a script for 20 vicoden no problem it makes my job easier and makes you happy as hell. But if you are some Ass hole who is dope sick and can't wait there turn and who is rude your ass would be getting Tylenol and a cup of water thats about all. Er Doctors and Dentist are not stupid today maybe 20 years ago before addiction was in the spot light they handed out scripts like candy with any old bull shit pain story line you gave but not today.one of the First things new Doctors are taught is to look for Addicts who want narcotics and are faking a injury.
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Yea, got to love those doctors who can 'read' us patients so well.
Like the time I went to the hospital with severe chest pain, told them it hurt as 8/10 and they gave me A, as in ONE, vicodin, took an xray, doctor looked at me like a junky and sent me home.
The next day they call me as Im barely breathing and feel like Im having a heart attack for 24 hours and say "Um...sir, we need you to come back as soon as possible, you have a 60% lung collapse that our doctor somehow missed."
Yea, he MISSED. The asshole thought I was there jonesing for a fucking vicodin? They shot me up with Diluadid the minute I walked in the door and offered me my choice of painkillers and the option of 2 different surgerys and treated me like a king.
To doctors like this, go fuck yourself, your just like the police who are out to stroke their own ego.
To doctors who actually do their job, thank you and God bless.
Namaste
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:24 PM   #9
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Thanks for that lol So, my back actually opened up a little, where I had my Pilonidal cyst and it actually does hurt, and tunnels up about 2 inches with irritated scar tissue in there. I think that'll be enough, but maybe not, as my primary physician is a big christian and his whole facility is, and they don't give out pain meds too easily.

wish me luck lol

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I find getting pods to be much easier than dealing with docs.
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