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Old 08-25-2004, 11:18 PM   #1
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I have three pills of what I believe to be 30mg of Morphine Sulfate Extended-Release Tablets (small purple pill with 30 on one side and M on the other). Anyway, I've never taken morphine before so I'm wondering what a good dosage would be if I snorted the pills. I've heard that taken orally morphine is a huge waste and that snorting it may be a bit more of an effective method of administration. To give you an idea of my opiate tolerance, or lack of, I usually require 30mg-40mg of hydrocodone to feel any sort of buzz. I've tolerated doses up to 60mg-70mg before, though that wasn't administrated all at once.

I just want to do all of this safely. I don't want to be one of those kids that crushes up an 180mg oxy pill and snorts it all and dies (a really stupid thing to do). So if you could give me advice as to dosage, whether or not to crush it, snort it, eat it, etc, would be kindly appreciated.

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Old 08-26-2004, 02:03 AM   #2
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Im not sure if you can insufflate morphine sulfate. Or at least, im not sure that sulfate salts will absorb very well in the mucus membranes.
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Old 08-28-2004, 05:54 PM   #3
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dude, do NOT snort morphine. my friend once got a pill and tried to snort it. i ate mine, and got plenty fucked up. But no, he wanted to get even more faded. Im telling you, when he snorted that pill the entire right half of his face turned red and his right eye started pouring out tears. He just put his face in his hand and started blowing out with his nose, it hurt so bad. He just kept saying "do NOT snort morphine"... he said it burned worse than anything he'd ever snorted... and besides i've heard that morphine is one of the hardest opiates on your tissues, people that eat the pills still complain of bad stomach burning, even when their already fucked up on the morphine which is a painkiller(so u'd think it'd take away the pain). you have to remember, morphine is different than say oxycontin wich is codein based, or a derivitive of codeine. The two painkillers in opium are morphine and codeine, from which most of our known painkillers come from. They are similar in effect and the opiate receptors taht are effected, but are different in chemical makeup and dosage. So be careful, if u really want to feel it i would parachute it. This is done by crushing up the pill, and putting it in a thin envelope of tissue paper, and then swallowing the whole thing. in my experience, it hits u pretty quick this way too.
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Old 08-29-2004, 03:11 AM   #4
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You can definitely sniff morphine sulfate. I've done it before. lnghaird_cntryB0Y, I don't know what the hell your friend was talking about when he said it burned, it always seemed pretty smooth to me.

Start with about 20 mg. then work your way up by 5 mg. or so intervals.
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Old 08-29-2004, 04:03 AM   #5
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morphine is different than say oxycontin wich is codein based, or a derivitive of codeine.
This is inaccurate. Codeine, Opium and Morphine and Heroin are derived directly from opium. Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, fentanyl, propoxyphene and methadone are synthetic opiates. Means they didn't come directly from Opium, but the chemical structure of O was synthisized in a lab. (this is actually cheaper than opium itself.) The results and side effects vary from drug to drug, but are VERY similar. Fent lasts a short amount of time, propoxyphene has little pain killing activity, but strongly effects your respiratory system, codeine is terribly constipating, You take fent in micrograms, other opiates are usually measured in milligrams, which vary from drug to drug, which actually makes fent the "strongest" at least in terms of effect per amount.


As for snorting it, I couldn't tell you.
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Old 08-29-2004, 05:13 AM   #6
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Heroin (is) derived directly from opium.
Not quite true. It's synthesized from morphine, which comes directly from opium.
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No, not "synthisized" but extracted. H IS not a synthetic opiate.
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Old 08-30-2004, 04:22 PM   #8
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no, there are 4 or 5 diff. drugs in opium. they are codeine, morphine, thebaine and a few others. codein and morphine are very similar and are the pankillers that you get from opium. the rest are low acting stimulants, which is why smoked opium gives u that buzz. so, you can isolate codeine and morphine and work off of that. morphine based drugs are generally stronger than codeine based drugs, which is why hydromorphone(dilaudid) is much stronger than hydrocodone (vicodin). they all came from the same plant (opium poppies) but morphine and codein based drugs ARE different. And, heroin is a synthetic drug. its chem. name is diethyl-morphine. it is morphine with two added ethyl groups which make the drugs move through the body 4 times as fast, which is responsible for the "hit" associated with shooting heroin. The speed of the drug accounts for how powerful and addictive it is
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afsik, Heroin is not truely synthesized from morphine, but it is not simply extracted. I could very well be wrong tho. Heroin is different compound from morphine. You could say that it is derived from morphine, but not quite synthesized. And many drugs have that "hit" or rush when ived, but that is not due to how fast it is moving. Any thing that is injected has a rush or a fast "hit" of somesort. The reason for h's addictiveness is that when heroin is done, it releases alot more dopamine than normally released by the brain. After some time, the body gets used to the higher levels of dopamine and requires h or something else to release it so the brain can function properly. But i may be wrong, and please correct me if i am.
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Diacetylmorphine, or heroin, was first synthesized from morphine in 1874. It is formed simply by adding two acetyl groups. Heroin is around three times more potent than morphine. Its increased lipid solubility allows heroin to cross the blood-brain barrier more quickly. The drug is reconverted back to morphine before it binds to brain-tissue receptors. Pure heroin is a white, odourless powder with a bitter taste. Most illicit heroin, however, varies in color from white, pink/beige to dark brown. This is because of impurities left from the manufacturing process or the presence of additives.
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