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Originally Posted by Professor Chaos
This is often referred to as the "welfare wall."
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I'd say ''swings and rounabouts'' but I get your point.
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Budget 2007 helps people over the welfare wall and into the dignity and independence that comes with a job."
Some people are just not able to work. Look at every individual as just THAT, idividually!
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We have incapacity benefit - that is being [rightly or wrongly] abused by some of its reciepients. The gov' do want to get as many people off that and onto JSA [job seekers allowance].
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WRONG. The Government IS ignoring the people. That's pretty evident from the poverty rate. They can easily remedy that, with the vast wealth of this country.
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Well lets agree to disagree here you are far more entrenched into it than I am.
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But when so much of that goes towards something as ridiculous as "National Security" here, it just makes my blood boil. What do we need security from? We have NEVER been attacked neither have any ATTEMPTS been made on us. It's all American propoganda. Everyone needs to stop buying into "fear of the muslims, for they will kill you". It's mad. Really.
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How do you know no attempts have been made ? - i don't believe that.
Who defeats those attempts ?.
No - Canada maybe not the hotbed of terror - but remember what country you border.
I've never heard a good arguement to not have ''national security''.
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The problem is this: ANY idiot can be hired as a social worker. They have little or no compassion towards the people they deal with. I think a degree in Humanities should be mandatory. They view the "poor" as a disease that must be cured. Obviously they've been sucked into the capitalist view of "you are measured by your wealth". It's wrong.
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How old are you - where did you get all your cyicism from ?. I thought all Canadians were happy jolly fellows [sarcasm].
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NEVER will I work for the scum that hates their fellow citizens.
And please don't tell me what I can or cannot do.
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I did not mean to be patronising - sorry.
Just that removing your prob' validated cynicism - there is good people in every goverment. There are programmes in place too help - they just are not effective enough. Not all provinces in Canada are as bad as each other - Somebody somewhere is doing something RIGHT. It just needs more joined up goverment.
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Yes, my main concern is defeating capitalism. Because, at the end of the day, it DOES boil down to just that. Everyone is infected AND affected by it.
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If you don't support ''capitalism'' how are you going to pay for all your social programmes ?. Half your tax revenue would disipate in months.
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Well that is true - but immigration is a issue - people having 7 kids is a issue.
People living longer and longer in their old age is a issue.
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Wow. I'm ashamed FOR you. That was absolutely hideous of you to say.
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The more people who enter a country the more ''burden'' is placed on the authority - that leads onto issues within housing daycare wealthfare schools transport jobs - pretty much everything. I did not want to come across as a tad ''right wing'' but the reality imho is that everything has to be taken into consideration.
''A new method of counting migrants massively underestimates the real number of people moving to Britain and leads to council underfunding, the Treasury was warned today.
He said: "Estimates have failed to keep pace with what is happening on the ground and public services are suffering as a consequence.
"The migrants that come to Slough are hard-working and bring great benefit to the local economy but the council remains severely underfunded because of these poor statistics.
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http://society.guardian.co.uk/asylum...079366,00.html
If every person had 7 kids because of their ''human right'' to have them - and 1/3 ended up not being able to support them - your tax burden would increase - thus pissing every tax payer off. There is a lot of money swishing around that might be true. Money you consider ''wasted'' i presume ?. When ''burdens'' [ok strains on the system] become out of sink then something suffers - don't you think ?.
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The "excuse" is this: Environment and Education. People tend to become products oftheir environment and have a severe lack of education (because it is not offered to them). EASILY remedied issues.
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That is true - i don't dispute that. Does or should this lead to crime ? NO imho.
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NEVER said it was. I said once all options have been exhausted, violence might be necessary to get the point across to them.
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The problem I have with that is that the person with the gun is always right [even if it is metaphorical]. The debate is shut down.
Not to say that sometimes violence is not a option - to overthrow the ''system'' - but Canada ? come on - no need for that there - you have made a good case for the goverment being jack asses but there is always two sides to the story.
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