Alex Jones

is your daddy.

www.infowars.com

saw "9/11 The Road to Tyranny", "American Dictators", and Martial Law - 9/11: Rise of the Police State"

pretty well documented stuff, stone cold facts that would leave an apologist in denial.

You can now watch Jones' new documentary, TerrorStorm, which was released just days ago, for free, in its entirety, on Google Video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=Terrorstorm

I must say that this was good, even though 99% of it talks about things I already know. It's definitely better than "Martial Law," which I thought was overhyped and sloppily put together.

The new video discusses mainly the London bombings of last summer, the police and surveillance state in London, as well as the wider "War on Terror".

And Jones IS NOT my daddy, that's for sure.

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Alex Jones is definitly cool, and people that say he's a fed or crap like that...i see where they are coming from but I don't agree with them. I actually think its a fear tactic used to make this whole movement look paranoid, there aren't any feds out there spreading disinfo on 9/11 truth websites and such, IMO. But what I do think there is are feds that are involved with the movement and spy on people like alex Jones, but for him to actually be a fed covering up such big coverups is just absurd, like the government would go up to a guy and be like "hey we uh did 9/11 and we assasinate political activists all the time, and we want you to have ur own radio show and ur gonna like, spread all this disinfo to people so we don't get found out" i dunna i guess it coould happen it just kinda of sounds a little absurd to me, esp the fact they don't even need to do that, the majority of americans think people like alex jones are crazy anyway.

Originally Posted by Pressed_Rat

And Jones IS NOT my daddy, that's for sure.

uhh, yeah he is

He's not mine either in any way, definitly not. i'd smoke an L with him tho he's cool....

i've only seen him in Waking Life, but it's one of my favourite parts of the movie.

The thing is that all Alex Jones’ propagandising is for nought if it’s only goal is to encourage people to stare at their navel.

Think about it, what’s the point if the goal is just to talk endlessly about ‘the conspiracy’, shouldn’t it be about creating a better world?

But many of those that praise Jones don’t seem to know what they want or are hiding their views because many would see them as creating a worse situation.

So can we get hints of the direction Jones wants from the Jones websites?

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In the activism section of Prison planet, people are told how to bring change, but what political change do they want?

(First up is the fact that people are told to write to their political representatives and the media. But isn’t one of the main tenets of ‘the conspiracy’ the belief that the mainstream media and the elected representatives are all under the control of ‘the conspiracy’ so whats that all about)

Anyway, in one article Paul Joseph Watson (Jones long time collaborator) seems to argue that the movement should have a left wing outcome, wanting to wake the “sleeping giant” of the left wing presumably so it can build a better conspiracy free future.

But that doesn’t seem to fit in with some other aspects of ‘the conspiracy’ that claim the left are a creation of conspirators.

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In another section of activism they mention the excellent pamphlet ‘An Activist guide to exploiting the media’ by George Monbiot

I have mention Monbiot before and he actually doesn’t hid the direction in which he wanted that activism to go and wrote the book ‘The Age of Consent: A Manifesto for a New World Order’ to set out his vision in which he argues for international organisations.

(Discussed in these forums in the thread “Would a global government and a New World Order be a bad thing?” http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75062 )

So again this seems to clash with other parts of Jones ideas.

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What politically is Jones striving for?

Has he like written a mission statement, a vision for the future?

Because to me his project seems contradictory and rudderless.

Someone might believe that the ship of state is going in the wrong direction and that the captain and crew are planning on transporting you into slavery but if you rest control without a clear direction you are more likely than not going to smash the ship against the rocks and drown everyone.

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Prisonplanet is a different type of site though it has articles which range from all kinds of different viewpoints, some are written by FAR left wing people and others by Far Right Wing People. What you have to do balbus is read all of them and make your own judgements and opinions based on them, a lot of that stuff I don't agree with and a lot of it I do and I form my own opinions. No not all politicians are part of a conspiracy, but the ones who's campaign funds are being completely paid off by corporations probably isn't gonna be good for us. See, this site is a little more open then the sites you visit, you visit left wing liberal sites who just talk about how dumb bush is and how the NSA shouldn't spy on us, both true statements, but it's completely bias and doesn't go anywhere. Alex Jones takes articles from Air America and Fox News...and you can read them and make your own damn conclusions, that's what freedom is all about, it's not about basing your opinion off completely left wing information or right wing information, I don't see why you can't grasp that. You act like Alex Jones Is leading people down a bad road by the articles he posts, too bad 90% are all written by other people, he is more of a blogger not an actual writer. You need to know how to look past the bullshit and form your own views.

well said.

and I was kidding about the whole "A.J. is your daddy", in case you couldn't tell.
after watching those docs., I was wondering the same thing... what should we do about this?
yet the whole point of those flicks is to expose people to what's been going on since the last century, some things that most people refuse to accept when they are so much in denial; yet a lot of these same people seem to believe the illusion that a certain jew died for their "sins", and came back to life three days later, a magic trick that rivals Criss Angel's works.

Someone said in another thread, about how it's easy to pass off someone as a "conspiracy theorist", and it's just as easy to pass off a skeptic as a "coincidence theorist".