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Old 06-18-2006, 10:12 PM   #11
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Yes but the question I am asking you Pressed Rat is at the current pace the worlds population is increasing what other solution would there be. Earth can only support so many people and there is only enough room for so many people on Earth. What should the solution be for the rapid population of Earth? Its obviously not something any of us want to deal with but in the end things like global warming and the overpopulation of Earth has to be dealt with and addressed. Im just asking you based on that simple question what you believe should be done.
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Old 06-18-2006, 10:24 PM   #12
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What I'd like to know Matt, is what in the fuck any of us could even begin to do about this if we wanted to. As you've said they already control the current global state. Our leaders are puppets, which in turn means they are already on their way to accomplishing their goals as they indirectly run our country and I'm assuming probably a few others as well if they've taken ours over. I know you're going to totally disagree with what I'm about to say, but the way I see it, it's time to sit back and enjoy the ride - assuming this is true anyway. You know I respect your views, but I'm still skeptical.
That's the toughest question of all: WHAT CAN WE DO?

I have to admit, things look very bleak. Despite this, I do believe people are waking up, but most people are afraid to speak out for fear of ridicule or persecution. Still, the majority of the population is blissfully ignorant, and frankly, they don't want the truth.

All I can do is help to inform people and spread the word about what is going on. Many people will think I am nuts, and that's fine. Many people will laugh at me, but I don't care. Other people will take what I am saying seriously and do their own research and hopefully inform others. Informed people who aren't afraid to inform others are what we need in this world. I am not about to tell people what they should do with this information. That is up for the people to decide once enough people become informed and let go of the fear that's controlling them.

And even if there is nothing we can do, I still think it's important to understand history and where we are headed. If you understand real history then you will understand the reality of what the future holds. I am not a religious person by any means, but there is a common verse in the bible that reads "The truth shall set you free." Knowing the truth helps to break us free from the illusionary matrix that most of us are living in. Once you begin to break free from the matrix, you become less afraid and more in-tune with yourself and the world around you. If enough people break free from the matrix that illusion will shatter and the Elite's system of control will shatter along with it.

The will of the people (or lack of) will determine the outcome of what's to come. It's a matter of IF people decide to act, and when.

Other than that, I don't have all the answers, though I wish I did.
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Old 06-18-2006, 10:44 PM   #13
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Yes but the question I am asking you Pressed Rat is at the current pace the worlds population is increasing what other solution would there be. Earth can only support so many people and there is only enough room for so many people on Earth. What should the solution be for the rapid population of Earth? Its obviously not something any of us want to deal with but in the end things like global warming and the overpopulation of Earth has to be dealt with and addressed. Im just asking you based on that simple question what you believe should be done.
This is where you're falling into their trap. The elites promoting the myth that we are overpopulated are the same elites who want to kill off the majority of the world's population to "save the earth". This whole myth of overpopulation dates back to the early 70s, when the Club of Rome -- an elite group consisting of names such as Henry Kissinger and Aurelio Peccei, an Italian industrialist -- released the book Limits To Growth in 1972, which contained all sorts of false and misleading information (propaganda) about how we are facing a population crisis. Despite all the fallacies in this book, these lies are still being promoted to this day by the environmental movement, which is controlled at the top by these same types of shadowy people who have their own agenda.

The elites crying wolf about overpopulation, while promoting eugenics and population reduction, would be the last people you'd see lining up to die to save mother earth. I can guarantee you that! And anyone who believes in killing off 80% of the people on this planet to save the earth are INSANE! Do you think you'll be one of the 20% who will be around to see the earth be saved? I highly doubt that!

And isn't it ironic that these same global elitists who seem to be all so concerned about the earth are the ones who have done the most to help destroy it?

You see, the Elite LOVE using issues like this because they know it's good for winning the hearts and minds of the people who genuinely love and care about the earth. In doing this they get the people to support their agenda without them knowing it because they have been mislead into believing it's truly about saving the earth.
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Old 06-18-2006, 11:41 PM   #14
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This is what I will say to you Pressed Rat, the U.S. is a developed country and uses a lot of natural resources. Now India and China are becoming more developed and will be mimicking the U.S. and other developed countries. Can the world sustain life when every where you turn there is a paved road with skyscrapers and polluted water and air like it is in developed countries. Because the answer to that is most likely no, what is going to happen when every area of the world has over a million people living there and every part of the world is a city with cars and paved roads. No trees, no clean water, very few areas to grow agriculture. The Earth cannot support any more industrialized and modern countries. There is a limit.
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Old 06-18-2006, 11:46 PM   #15
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There is one theory that the Earth doesn't have enough oxygen to support so many billions of people. And some people believe that oxygen will be sold and distributed like bottled water and only the rich or elite will get most of the oxygen. The environment will be so polluted and toxic that people will have to live indoors most of the time. These are just some examples of how bad it could get.
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Old 06-19-2006, 01:34 AM   #16
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This is what I will say to you Pressed Rat, the U.S. is a developed country and uses a lot of natural resources. Now India and China are becoming more developed and will be mimicking the U.S. and other developed countries. Can the world sustain life when every where you turn there is a paved road with skyscrapers and polluted water and air like it is in developed countries. Because the answer to that is most likely no, what is going to happen when every area of the world has over a million people living there and every part of the world is a city with cars and paved roads. No trees, no clean water, very few areas to grow agriculture. The Earth cannot support any more industrialized and modern countries. There is a limit.
How much of this have you actually looked into for yourself? It sounds like you're just repeating things you've heard without having any real knowledge of what you're talking about. I understand that overpopulation has the potential to be a real problem. But what exactly is overpopulation, and who exactly decides what overpopulation is? Apparently it's a bunch of rich and powerful men, who use disinformation to deceive the public and put them in a state of perpetual fear so they can be more easily manipulated and controlled. I don't know about you, but I don't see skyscrapers everywhere I turn. Much of what you're talking about, if it even happens, will be a long, long time in the future, and the things we really have to be concerned about are far more imminent than anything you're talking about.

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There is one theory that the Earth doesn't have enough oxygen to support so many billions of people. And some people believe that oxygen will be sold and distributed like bottled water and only the rich or elite will get most of the oxygen. The environment will be so polluted and toxic that people will have to live indoors most of the time. These are just some examples of how bad it could get.
Now that's just ridiculous. We are talking hundreds, if not thousands, of years into the future, and chances are humanity will be wiped out by something other than that long before.

All this talk is nothing more than fear. It's fear because there is no basis behind it. It's propaganda being put out for the masses to gobble up and swallow without any questioning -- nothing more!
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Old 06-19-2006, 01:54 AM   #17
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Yes I am exaggerating a bit on when those scenarios could happen. Chances are if they happen it will be hundreds of years from now. And your right I am guessing about the whole sustaining life part on Earth. But I just like putting things out there that you don't really mention that much, about the environmental issues. I'm just putting things out there to take in.
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