How can anyone be a fascist.

Originally Posted by MaximusXXX

That's ignorance.

Mussolini was a great man, he joined Hitler to save his people, why else do you think the Italian jews were one of the last to go? Mussolini knew that if he wasn't with Hitler he would have found himself against him, and lost.

Yes, Fascism believes that its country is the best, but what's wrong with that?

Don't Americans think they're the best?

How about Russians?

It's called national pride.

Fascism unites a nation's people, and punishes those who wander outside of the national expectations, I can't type out the entire Fascist doctrine for you, but Fascism is what you make of it, of course if you believe in all that equality bullshit then you can't be a Fascist, but, my idealisms are fitting for Fascism. Fascism is not evil, Fascism does not support ideals such as Abortion or " rehabilitation ", ext.

Do not judge something you do not fully know.

You are very young man to have these fucking hard core beliefs. I have a question to pose, why would a person with such beliefs post on hip forums? I do like healty debate. However, you seem to be hardcore with your beliefs.

Click on the following links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fascism

Originally Posted by MaximusXXX

That's ignorance.

Mussolini was a great man, he joined Hitler to save his people, why else do you think the Italian jews were one of the last to go? Mussolini knew that if he wasn't with Hitler he would have found himself against him, and lost.

Yes, Fascism believes that its country is the best, but what's wrong with that?

Don't Americans think they're the best?

How about Russians?

It's called national pride.

Fascism unites a nation's people, and punishes those who wander outside of the national expectations, I can't type out the entire Fascist doctrine for you, but Fascism is what you make of it, of course if you believe in all that equality bullshit then you can't be a Fascist, but, my idealisms are fitting for Fascism. Fascism is not evil, Fascism does not support ideals such as Abortion or " rehabilitation ", ext.

Do not judge something you do not fully know.

Fascism is the idea that a small minority has both the wisdom and justification to determine the working and living decisions for an entire nation of people. It is not a fair system and any leader who would deny its people basic rights generally don't have the people's interests at heart.

Mussolini forced Italian troops to occupy large areas of the medditeranean (most against their will, which is why they were a poor army), ultimately helping the Nazi cause, by slowing all efforts to invade central Europe and dismantle the third reich.

Fascism has nothing to do with thinking a country is best. Fascism dictates that its leaders are the best. Why don't you do some reading?

Do you realise that in the Spanish Civil war, the voluntary socialist militias had a very tiny number of desertions, while thousands of people we're willing to walk away from the Fascist army, many joining the other side?

Do the math.

Yet the Nationalists still won, ironic.

Trust me, I might only be 19, but Politics and History is like a third of my life ( the other being sports, women and my writting ).

I'll give you a question and where I stand on it:

In a war, a grenade is thrown into the middle of a group of five men, one of those men is you, another of those men is a scientist, another is a doctor, another is a great sniper, another is an idiot, you are a ( whatever job you believe is important ), there is not enough time to run away, who will jump on the grenade to save the others?

Now, there's many ways to ask that question, instead of 5 men there could be 5 women, or instead of 5 people there could be 10, whatever is best for you, but there has to be an idiot in that pile, or an individual who's worth is the least of the group, that individual must be sacrificed to save the others who are more important.


Now you tell me where you stand on that.

Originally Posted by MaximusXXX

Trust me, I might only be 19, but Politics and History is like a third of my life ( the other being sports, women and my writting ).

I'll give you a question and where I stand on it:

In a war, a grenade is thrown into the middle of a group of five men, one of those men is you, another of those men is a scientist, another is a doctor, another is a great sniper, another is an idiot, you are a ( whatever job you believe is important ), there is not enough time to run away, who will jump on the grenade to save the others?

Now, there's many ways to ask that question, instead of 5 men there could be 5 women, or instead of 5 people there could be 10, whatever is best for you, but there has to be an idiot in that pile, or an individual who's worth is the least of the group, that individual must be sacrificed to save the others who are more important.


Now you tell me where you stand on that.

Where do you live Son? If its the United States you'll find that delegating the role of idiot is a near impossible task because nobody can decide who the fuck the idiot is.

I suppose under fascism, the leader gets to decide. How convenient.

I live in Canada, we have many retards, and borderline retards, they're all expendable.

In a war, a grenade is thrown into the middle of a group of five men, one of those men is you, another of those men is a scientist, another is a doctor, another is a great sniper, another is an idiot, you are a ( whatever job you believe is important ), there is not enough time to run away, who will jump on the grenade to save the others?

The one with the most courage and a sense of self sacrafice for greater good. It would be someone who does it of their own free will. Its not like if this situation came up you would be able to call the "great leader" to decide for you anyway.

I'd throw the idiot on the grenade.

The root of fascism is miseducation (or plain lack of education)


thats why the likes of the Brittish Nationalist Party are made up of white working class males.

Facist Systems emerged to controll states in the 1930

due in part to promises of security to voters who elected them.
The world was in an economic depression.

Voters were suckered in by promises of medical and old age care
free education and other social benefits.

Problem was that the amount of cash required to provide all of these goodies
was so great that Facists had to resort to confiscatory taxation.
Therefore the populations had to grant the goverment a level of power
suitable to coherce and rob people of thier savings.
This power was then turned to war and agression.

The people voluntariy surrendered the power to the Facists because they belived that they were going to be taken care of.
Then when domestic resources proved insufficent, they thought to take them from thier neighbors.

The system was fueled by jealousy and envy of the posessions of other nations. Facists tapped into resentment.

People easily bought into demonizing Jews, Gypsies and Gays as sources of thier problems, people bought into the big lie.

Even here in America we had our Big Man who packed the supreme court.
and was elected President an unprecedented four times on promises to take care of the people.

As a Hippie, I find good karma in eliminating jelosies and resentments and
am extremely wary when goverments take-on the features of moralists
and care givers.


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