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Old 12-15-2005, 07:38 PM   #1
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a friend of mine had a class in which they debated an issue about child porn...wanted to hear some of your thoughts on it:

with all the advancements in computer generated images and what not some have developed child porn thats all computer generated; the generator said he did it because no pedo's can watch their child porn without the children...do you think people should be able to watch child porn if there are no real children in it? or is it just as bad?
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:46 PM   #2
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Just as bad because it is feeding their bad habit.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:51 PM   #3
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pedophilia is a mental sickness, and the prognosis is almost always terrible. VERY VERY low success rates or advancements in treating it. do i think "artificial" child porn is inherently morally wrong? no, not moreso than any other porn. but what types of acts are we discussing, how young are we discussing, and what is the real issue here? is the issue that we dont want pedophiles looking at porn, or that we don't want pedophiles raping children?

on the one hand, artificial kiddy porn would allow them something to fantasize over, something to watch/look at, something to tantalize them without actually hurting any children. on the other hand, it could be viewed as fueling the lust for children, and could in fact lead to increased rates of assault on children. people who watch gay porn are usually people who enjoy homosexual sex. people who watch domination/bondage porn are people who usually enjoy rough sex. people who watch straight porn like hetero sex. and people who like kiddy porn like sex with children. i dont personally think the pornography is the issue, i think the mindset of wanting to sleep with children is the issue. pornography is a side issue of that, and once the children are taken out of child pornography, i'd say that the issue of pornography should take a back burner to the issue of learning how to treat pedophilia.

remember that none of this conversation relates simply to having sex with legal children, this is all relative to prepubescant kids. people are built to be attracted to each other once they're sexually maturing, and while sleeping with/creating porn with postpubescant but underage teens offers up it's own new host of moral and legal issues, it is not from a psychological standpoint "sick" or "abnormal." this issue is completely seperate from, say, having 18-20 year olds dress or make themselves up in a way that would suggest they're more along the lines of being 15-17 year olds.

however, fake CHILD pornography is nothing new. sure the computer graphics may make it easier to make it look realistic, but do some searches on the word "hentai" and you'll find a LOT of anime porn. much of this "cartoon porn" is based around things people can't really depict legally or realistically with photographs or movies, such as children performing sex acts, rape, bestiality with monsters, incest, absolutely brutal bondage/torture situations all sorts of rather twisted stuff that is every bit as "wrong" as this computer generated version of it could be. it's relatively widespread, and yet as far as i know the advent of animated pornography has not seemed to link to a rise in violent sex crimes.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:59 PM   #4
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If it looks real it would interfere with finding the real exploited children...too many wild goose chases. Real child porn would start getting mixed up in it, and the makers of it would strart claiming it was fake...
I think it is just as sick.

If it like that ridiculous japanimation cartoon child porn....the pedos probably wouldn't be interested in it.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:09 PM   #5
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Yes, it should be allowed. I don't want no more laws around here. And I h8 how there's people these days that call everything different a mental illness.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:15 PM   #6
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Child porn, aside from being evidence of a crime and fodder for the brains of these sickos, is OFTEN used by pedos to diddle other kids.

"See Jimmy? That boy in the magazine is doing it.... see? it's OK."

Computer generated or no..... it shouldn't exist.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:37 PM   #7
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((thought crime alert))

Pretty soon, our mere THOUGHTS will potentially put us behind bars. Nobody is being hurt, nobody is doing the hurting, and yet people are trying to find a reason to punish. I'm sorry, but I find THAT to be more disgusting than the so-called "fake child porn".

If you ask me, them "barely-legal schoolgirl" porn materials are just as guilty in the area of simulated child porn. And many guys dig that stuff. Why? Because they LOVE it. They love it because they DO have the SO-CALLED "pedophilic" tendencies, and the material is at least LEGAL. Trust me, if the legal age for those models were 12, people would still be buying that stuff. Why? Because it's LEGAL, and they can get away with it.

I'm sorry, but I'm just sick of this "child porn this", "pedophile that", sort of attitude in the world today. What is important is that children are not harmed. If someone wants to create a so-called "fake child porn", I seriously don't see any harm in it. If they are denied of even SIMULATED stimulants, they really WILL go insane.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:39 PM   #8
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Yea, what that last guy said.
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I would tend to think that paedofilia is a cultural offshoot of sexual freedom developing in our culture. I'm not blaming the free-lovers, I believe that repressed sexuality for so long finally produced more perverted views of sex. I also tend to believe that humanity is entering a new stage in evolution which could support theories of various forms of predation being earth's back-up for a population dramatically too large.
I have no evidence to support my claims, it's just the general pond area I think in.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:47 PM   #10
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Or maby it's cause young chicks look good.
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