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06-25-2004, 08:33 AM
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There's no such thing as knowledge
Anyone who sees simplicity realizes that nothing can be 'known' in the sense that we like to think about it. that therefore discredits all western religions, unless of course you want to bring your arguements to a lower level, in other words, a lower conceptual level.
MY GOD CAN BEAT YOUR GOD UP!
My god hates your god!
My god is real, yours is fake.
This is the Kali Yuga, the age of ignorance.
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It is very easy to be happy when you think "Nothing really matters", but it requires that you believe that thought. ni·hil·ism- one who holds no beliefs (I am not a nihilist. I am just making fun of them.)
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06-25-2004, 01:55 PM
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I know that I exist. I cannot doubt it. If I do, then who is doing the doubting. There are some things that are a priori synthetic truths. These are things that are known to be true but cannot necessarily be proven (nor do they always need to be). For example, the statement "the cat sat on the mat" presumes that cats and mats exist. That there a concept called sitting. That there is a physical universe. That there is, in some form, a space whereby one thing can be on another. Also that I exist (as I am reading the statement).
God, you need to study some more. I had that much figured out before I ever took a philosophy class.
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06-25-2004, 01:58 PM
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There are some things that I assume to be absolutely true in order to get on with life.
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06-25-2004, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by God
Anyone who sees simplicity realizes that nothing can be 'known' in the sense that we like to think about it. that therefore discredits all western religions, unless of course you want to bring your arguements to a lower level, in other words, a lower conceptual level.
MY GOD CAN BEAT YOUR GOD UP!
My god hates your god!
My god is real, yours is fake.
This is the Kali Yuga, the age of ignorance.
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Then how can we know it's the Kali Yuga?
How can we know it discredits western religion?
And how can we know we're 'seeing simplicity?'
And what is seeing?
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06-26-2004, 05:30 AM
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Actually christ taught the same thing eastern religions teach. Only his followers chose to read something wholly different into his words.
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06-26-2004, 08:02 AM
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You forgot one essential point. I am not even real...
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It is very easy to be happy when you think "Nothing really matters", but it requires that you believe that thought. ni·hil·ism- one who holds no beliefs (I am not a nihilist. I am just making fun of them.)
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06-27-2004, 10:30 PM
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Anyone who sees simplicity realizes that nothing can be 'known' in the sense that we like to think about it.
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Your premise discredits your conclusion.
Is that what you were looking for? I sure hope so and more than that I hope you can come back with something great.
Else you are a simple moron.
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06-28-2004, 05:46 PM
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Well that's not very nice.
I think many people don't realize that all we know is subjective and truth is impossible. Our language and the categories we use to classify and describe reality are necessarily simplistic and idealistic. They work for our little conversations but in any attempt to find true meaning all of our predefined notions of knowledge come into question. I don't think the post was meant to be a brilliant new thought, only to expose our ignorance to the ignorant.
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06-29-2004, 04:30 AM
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I think many people don't realize that all we know is subjective and truth is impossible.
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Truth is impossible you say? You may be on to something but it can't be entirely true. I mean, how else could you be so certain that truth is impossible. Isn't it true that truth doesn't exist? Unless of course you are looking at the answer subjectively in which case it could be that someone else thinks that the things we know, we know objectively. It would be terribly counterproductive to tell someone else that they can't have truths. It might lead to odd tinkerings with the idea that all you know is you, but certainly.
wait ... what?
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06-29-2004, 05:17 AM
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certainly there is universal truth. it is accessible to every individual, but in equal measure, it is interpreted differently by every individual.
knowledge is only as solid as your belief in what you see/hear/smell/taste/touch
in that sense, there is no such thing as knowledge.
but if i stop trusting my senses, and deny the existence of knowledge... then i deny the intellectual and physical processes that are producing these thoughts and words.
i believe that this reality, as convincing as it is, is just an illusion. although my take on reality is created entirely by the consciousness principle that i call "me". anything that i could know or feel or sense in any way, is on one level, not real. but for the present, on this plane of existence, i enjoy feelings and thoughts and knowledge. they are good things (often misused) in this world full of games... but always with the mindset that these fantastic and beautiful things will always fade away.
it's just a matter of not getting caught up in the scenery...
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