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Old 08-16-2005, 01:06 PM   #1
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Are relationships - intimate sexual Connections necessary or even helpful in the Work ?

No - at times the only way another will open to another, is through that kind of sharing. But often the timing makes that kind of sharing inappropriate within the social norms that we live in. Most of us are heavily programmed to exclusivity within an intimate sexual relationship, and usually try to maintain and keep it from changing from the desired level of reciprocated sexual tensions and emotions that we have come to accept as love - which is also by definition -a type of co-dependency - anything in which we try to restrict from change is a type of co-dependency.

From the Other Side - love is not limited. Most of us are uncomfortable with an unlimited, impersonal love - a love that does not restrict the focus to one. A love that honors All recognizing we are all connected - and that connection is love. But it really is not about the close sexual bonding - it's just that it's as close as we can come to explaining how it feels. We tend to describe it in those terms (mystics down through the ages speak very romantically about the Connection - having little else so suitable in the language available - but recognizing it as a poor way of expression - just having no other medium to express the intensity)

Very often people feeling the Connection relate it as a romantic connection - it is the only way we know how to feel with that intensity - and another reason for detachment - .

Detachment means we do not get blown away by the phenomeology. We stay centered, we keep the focus on the end goal; not the tintillation of the emotions and senses overflow that can be very distracting, and for many become a goal unto itself. And what is the end goal ? To re-connect in wholeness to the godhead, honoring our connection with the all and growing and we do this through this maya land of becoming - this plane of process - and this IS the Work - Growing Beyond.

And trying to talk about this often leads to misunderstandings and often peole construe it as an OK to open themselves to inimate sexuality with those with who they feel the Connection

Again Detachment enables us not to get blown away by the phenomenology of receiving and giving that awesome Love which is the trademark of our Connection to All. Getting blown away by the phenomenology - trying to restrict it's flow will only lead one to lessons that will show them the error of their ways - often with stressful emotional overtones. One cannot possess this Love. One must freely Be that Love. And Love constantly directs us to open more to being vulnerable and allowing Change to help us to grow Beyond that which we Are - the method by which the godhead grows through us.

Any attempts to explain this always comes up short. The human language is not really capable - even telepathy cannot fully elucidate. Hence the call to intuition and Being true to Self - that Connection inherent within all that IS their connection to the godhead.

So please make leeway for the failings in this attempt to answer some questions put forth - To really understand you must turn within - and you must Still the mind - And Know.

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Full of Love...................... Desire provides the motivation
Channels of Love............. Doing is the test
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:40 PM   #2
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so why do we have sex?
is it just for procreation....


and to be honest, i have found many times that the relationships have slowed my growing...there is another person involved and you have to worry about them and their feelings......
its part of why i am now divorced *curtsies and winks*
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:45 PM   #3
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This is true.
Intimacy is beyond the physical, but may reflect there
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Old 08-16-2005, 03:01 PM   #4
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What color is Love?

What color is Love?

What color is Love?

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Do we Love like the Sun?

Do we Love like the Moon?

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Old 08-16-2005, 03:05 PM   #5
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whatever color you want it to be!

but back to the original question....i would say it is absolutely not necessary....this is demonstrated by the monks and nuns....

but again....why have sex....is it just a distraction....why have it be so intimate? why not just create us to where it doesnt feel so good....and touch so deep?
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May I lay an egg here? lol

This goes back to which came first, the chicken or the egg. In reality all things were complete unto themselves, and we in our desires, and needs sought to split, divide, and possess one thing that made us feel good, and whole. Then comes along the powdered egg, and we no longer need the chicken, and or the oval egg. All we have is the rememberance that there once was a purity of completeness that was embraced in all being one. So we have sex, eat the powdered eggs and ask, what am I missing. Without the total vulnerability that opens us to the simple trust, and faith of our own being we will never understand we created the I Am in an intimacy of our wish to grow beyond ourselves. In this we became our own seperations, and questions asking for understanding. Love is our reflection as we try to express ourselves hoping for a completeness that is all in one, and one in all.

When we get lost in the wow sex we loose site of the road ahead.
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heya monlightdancer weaving a spell as she joins with the lithesome huntress dancing in and out of our nights,

As my friend Nirgal is fond of saying ;
"the truth has a certain ring to it."

May your dancing be sacred, and lead you on inside; even as sex, if one does not get lost in it, can with the sharing, help us all the higher to climb.

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Perhaps the more adaptability a person has and willingness to focus and then let go, distractions may no longer become an issue for them, but more of an oppourtunity to be your true self and honor your connections with the godSelf through joyful expression of being that Love and discovering yours and the godheads own true nature.

If Love/God is in everything, then just to be engaged with anything (that includes Nothing, cause nothing is something right?) should let one be in engaged with growing beyond this plane of processes.

I don't think sex has jack to with it, but it can be fun to explore with someone else.

So what do you mean by this detachment we hear so much about, and where does balance fit in?
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