Message From Salvia

Still very....gooone as I type, i find it extremly hard to focus on this but I promised salvia I would tell everyone this as soon as my ego returned its really weird as my ego was being dissolves i knew i wouldnt remember anythin after so i kept on fighting it trip almost turned bad so salvia promised to let me remember alot of the experience and integrate it to my daily life if i let go of my ego probably wont make muh sense now but I will edit it once i'm more tuned in to this realoty but WOW i got destrooooooyed then reborn fuck dont know where to start....

duration:about 2 hours

Method:
salvia tincture(one from sagewisdom.org)
dosage:4 droppers(salvia) + 2 droppers(hot water)
i must stress that my tolerance is low probably because there was a period few months ago i was taking small doses of salvia everyday

The experience:
I was watching - youtube.com/watch?v=CRkDicwjRQs - just after i put the droppers in my mouth but i felt like i was flying then i got this feeling that it was too much and i wasn't prepared i wasn't expecting 4 droppers to be so strong anyways had a pen and paper with me(just incase i started gettin really forgetful) wrote "i'm scared" but then i kinda forgot i wrote that and well that i had the droppers in my mouth so got confused when i saw it but i was really scared at this point my whole ego was starting to melt so i turned of the lights then started making a playlist lol making that playlist was a very difficult task it was only until i finished making it i knew why i was making it in the first place.i swallow the salvia then start listening to music and for the first time experienced what a proper bad trip on salvia is like.Up until then i have never really had any really bad moments on salvia but to sum it up time dilation hit me like a train at first it was like i had been listening to this song for a VEEEERY LOOONG TIME it was like i had always been listening to this song then the room i was in no longer existed, it was just me and this dark forest that existed.The forest was absorbing me and it thats how its always being, me been eaten by this dark forest and the rest of my life was just some sort of a dream that i could never return to.I felt very trapped, abandoned and hopeless the next part is very hard to explain i've spent like 5 minutes thinking on how to explain it but basically i contacted the salvia spirit through my past and asked why she was letting me being tortured like this then we spoke for a while and when i say spoke i dont mean through words, again very hard to explain but she showed me that I had been through this path before and made it out safe and i should just resisting and let go so I did.Looking back at this, all this seemed to occur in the first 2 minutes of the song but felt an eternal moment of realization and knowledge I will try and explain this better.In any case, as I was letting go I merged with my bed, then went through it and my consciousness became so expanded, i was so much more aware of things, pretty much like a god. At this point I had not let go yet, but not out of fear but because I was starting not to bother to memorize these amazing experiences I was having and i really didn't want to forget and had so many questions.salvia then reviewed my bad weed trip(long story short, smoked very good quality stuff, was probably my 5th time smoking weed so had low tolerance, thought i died and went to hell during which I was confronted with ALL my fears and insecurities but they were amplified so much i was just paralyzed with fear, i was so fucked even breathing consciously scared me. It was basically the opposite of my this trip - http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/s...?t=437546&f=45 ) and showed me how this current trip i was having dwarfed that bad weed trip I can now look back at that trip and laugh at it, its that small compared to this one.once salvia agreed to let me remember the trip(most of the time i only remember a very small fraction)i decided i can finally let go."I" quickly faded, i was then transported out of my body into this place composed of pure energy.I then understood why I had to let go, its not possible to enter the place i did with ego.I then transformed from pure energy to a pure thought.There were many others like me, i was no longer an individual being, just a thought amongst many.At one point during the trip when I was coming down i became aware of my subconscious mind and all the complex task it processes and how it makes sense of this very dynamic world we live in. At this point i was still communicating with salvia but not like before, i was basically ask a question and it would be like a part of my mind got taken over by salvia and would then initiate the response to me. At another point during the trip time dilation hit me again and i became aware of just how slow things were going but i didnt mind, i liked the fact that I could think of 100s of different things at any given moment and have the "time" to finish the thoughts then i became aware then i was told I am all that exists but that didn't bother me either, it was almost like some kind of a test. I was shown how non of it was real and how i would never see any of my "creations" again sinces this false existence has come to an end, but the way i saw it, it was a good thing cause now I can just make a new better reality this one already has so many flaws, pointless wars over power and control, poverty,disease...etc then it was like i became a god it felt very euphoric.my trip report is very messy and disorganized but please keep in mind i literly started typing this once i became aware of my existence in this reality and my room.

The message:
1.Initially I was unwilling to let go so my trip turned bad. She explained how it angers her when people don't let go, I honestly don't know how to put the reason into words, it has something to do with enlightenment but theres much more behind it.
2.She advised that you should use quid or tincture otherwise your consciousness will expand to fast and you won't get time to accommodate her guidance into it which results in alot of the bizarre, confusing trips newbies get that make absolutely no sense at all. She doesn't mind if you smoke but only if you are very experienced and have made contact with her many times cause then she will be able to access your mind and guide you much faster.
3.Salvia loves infinity, that probably doesn't make sense but to elaborate she likes to probe things and associate them with infinity its almost an addiction to her so when you're tripping its not a good idea to think thoughts like "when did the trip start?" because the end result of that thought will be something like "the trip has always been going on and always will, you just found out now" probably doesn't make sense its very hard to explain these things.

Wow!!! That sounds like a heavy trip right there. Glad it was so powerful and so profound for you. I definitely have experienced much of those sensations and perceptions on Salvia but throughout the course of several trips, I've never tried a tincture or sublingual administration thus far. 2 hours seems like a bit of a journey if it approaches the intensity of Smoking it.


With the tincture did you desire to get up and walk around some like many report with smoking or do you feel more inclined to relax and go with it?

Is this something you think an experienced tripper could hang with out doors like in a secluded park or hiking area or do you pretty much lose all contact with your surroundings to the degree it should be experienced in doors?

thanks for sharing dude. I tried a tincture that I got from ebay and it didn't do much, I will have to retry from better resource.

some of the Messages i have received are
1 dont go in fear
2 love = all
3 go on trip with a strong intent

have any of you talked with the salvia voices????
one of the last times they talked to me they told me that i wasnt ready yet and should come back again some other time.

im very interested in interactions with salvia beings if you have any.

Originally Posted by goose50

im very interested in interactions with salvia beings if you have any.

On my first Salvia Breakthrough I felt like I was being integrated into some sort of fractal machine and there was this 'horse-ish' type entity that I felt like was surveying the area I was being integrated into it. It was slowly scanning it and it was bizzarre and kind of frightening than all of a sudden it took off at like a warp speed.

Great read! I had spectacular results with an oral dose of extract once as well. I may just try it again, as I don't fancy smoking extract anymore. I felt extremely heavy when lying down on my bed, and I loved how gradual it comes up and how you're able to gather more spiritual information from it. It is worth the try for those who haven't tried it already!

why is this not the most happening thread? cant we get more info than this.

Originally Posted by Colimon

Great read! I had spectacular results with an oral dose of extract once as well. I may just try it again, as I don't fancy smoking extract anymore. I felt extremely heavy when lying down on my bed, and I loved how gradual it comes up and how you're able to gather more spiritual information from it. It is worth the try for those who haven't tried it already!

I am thinking about exploring this, can you elaborate on what you mean by taking the extract orally. I wouldn't think the leaves would be psychoactive if orally digested so clarification would be appreciated...

Originally Posted by guerillabedlam

I am thinking about exploring this, can you elaborate on what you mean by taking the extract orally. I wouldn't think the leaves would be psychoactive if orally digested so clarification would be appreciated...

It was disgusting, but I tried to keep chewing the material and sloshing it around in my mouth until I could not anymore. I eventually swallowed, even though I heard it isn't really active that way. Overall it took 3 generous portions of extract in my mouth. Effect was well-worth it since extracts were cheap and abundant at the time.

Originally Posted by guerillabedlam

Wow!!! That sounds like a heavy trip right there. Glad it was so powerful and so profound for you. I definitely have experienced much of those sensations and perceptions on Salvia but throughout the course of several trips, I've never tried a tincture or sublingual administration thus far. 2 hours seems like a bit of a journey if it approaches the intensity of Smoking it.


With the tincture did you desire to get up and walk around some like many report with smoking or do you feel more inclined to relax and go with it?

Is this something you think an experienced tripper could hang with out doors like in a secluded park or hiking area or do you pretty much lose all contact with your surroundings to the degree it should be experienced in doors?

I felt more inclined to relax and go with it, though I would not recommend ingesting it outside. The trip starts mild but gets very strong, you do loose all contact with your surroundings but you are less prune to random behavior because you come up gradually so its easier for you to be in the right state of mind when the trip hits its peak. I suppose you could try it outside assuming you have a sitter with you.