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02-08-2010, 05:23 PM
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#32
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what the fuck is the dea for?
oh yeah, crack and methlabs and shit.
this story is making me feel like ripping out my hair.
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02-08-2010, 05:27 PM
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#33
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Location: shithole, midwest
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ill try to keep this thread posted with updates on this case i was reading around a bit and found this:
Monday, January 25, 2010
K2 Herb Is Getting Trouble In The Legal System
An herbal preparation containing synthetic cannabinoids has show up in Kansas, and a prohibitionist Kansas politician has a reflex response: Ban it. The preparation, sold under the name K2 Herb is available over the Internet and at selected shops in the Kansas City and Lawrence areas.
K-2 is one of a number of compounds that have appeared on the market in the past couple of years containing synthetic cannabinoids. Another popular compound containing the synthetic cannabinoids is sold under the name Spice. According to Clemson University chemistry professor John Huffman, at least one of those synthetic cannabinoids, JWH-018, was created by one of his graduate students doing pharmaceutical research.
Who manufactures K2 Herb, Spice, and similar products is unclear, as is where they are coming from.
Spice has already been banned by a number of European countries, including Britain, France, Germany, Poland, and Russia, as well as South Korea. While Spice, K-2, and other products containing synthetic cannabinoids are not listed as controlled substances in the US, there is some debate about whether they fall under the Controlled Substances Act's provisions banning analogues of controlled substances.
In an interview this week, Mast elaborated. Little is known about K2 Herb, she said. It's dangerous, she added, without explaining how she knows it is dangerous given that little is known about it. "And that makes it potentially dangerous," said Mast. "I'm really concerned about the effect it can have on young people."
Kansas state Rep. Peggy Mast (R-Emporia) had never heard of K2 before being approached by a local newspaper reporting on the phenomenon last week, but that didn't stop here from being ready to criminalize it. "I would be very happy to sponsor a bill to make this illegal," she said.
If there's one thing Mast does know, it's what to do when confronted with a substance about which you know little: Ban it. Mast sponsored successful legislation to do just that with jimson weed and salvia divinorum a few years ago. "I don't think the public should have ready access to anything that has not been studied," Mast said.
But until Mast gets around to introducing and passing a bill, K2 herb remains legal in Kansas. And places like Sacred Journeys in Lawrence are selling it.
"A lot of people get a marijuana-like buzz when you smoke it, and that seems to be why a lot of people are afraid of it and attack it," said Rob Bussinger, a consultant at Sacred Journey. "We have teachers that come in and buy it, we have police officers that come in and buy it, military people who buy it," said Bussinger.
For chemist Huffman, banning new substances is a futile pursuit. "You ban one and they'll come up with another," he said.
it seems they should have been plenty prepared for this..
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02-08-2010, 08:31 PM
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Okay so then the guy obviously was caught with a shitload of controlled substances then. What else could he expect coming? Lol
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02-08-2010, 08:55 PM
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^ no.
he was caught with legal sources of controlled substances (san pedro, mimosa hostilis, morning glory seeds, etc.) and chemicals that MAY fall under the category of analogues of controlled substances.
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02-08-2010, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by butter404
^ no.
he was caught with legal sources of controlled substances (san pedro, mimosa hostilis, morning glory seeds, etc.) and chemicals that MAY fall under the category of analogues of controlled substances.
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I had originally asked if him being raided over questionably uncontrolled substances (k2) got him caught with controlled ones as well (since I read the original article and it seemed unclear), somebody said no. But then demetrius shardson updated the news, and this is what he's charged with:
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Current charges against Jon are:
- Unlawful manufacturing of controlled substances: Dimethlyltryptamine (DMT)
- Unlawful manufacturing of controlled substances: Mescaline
- Unlawful manufacturing of controlled substances: Lysergic Acid Amide
- Unlawful cultivation or distribution of controlled substances: Mescaline
- Unlawful cultivation or distribution of controlled substances: Dimethlyltryptamine; Chacruna; Illinois Bundleflower; Epena; Cebil Seeds.
- Unlawful cultivation or distribution of controlled substances: Bufotenine, Epena, Chaliponga, Cebil Seeds, Colorado River Toads.
- Unlawful cultivation or distribution of controlled substances: Lysergic Acid Amide, Morning Glory Seeds, Rivea Corymbosa.
- Unlawful possession of certain drug precursors and drug paraphernalia: Plastic jugs and filters used or intended for unlawful use to manufacture, cultivate, plant propagate, harvest, test, analyze or distribute a controlled substance.
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... So ... Lol .. So he must of been making something. Lysergic Acid amide isn't even questionably legal.. that's just straight up schedule 1
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02-08-2010, 11:31 PM
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^ No, LSA is schedule III. And that's only if it's extracted from the seeds he's selling. LSD is schedule I.
He got charged for DMT, mescaline, and LSA because he was selling LEGAL sources of all three chemicals. He was charged with selling colorado river toads even though they are common in reptile stores around the US.
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02-08-2010, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by butter404
^ No, LSA is schedule III. And that's only if it's extracted from the seeds he's selling. LSD is schedule I.
He got charged for DMT, mescaline, and LSA because he was selling LEGAL sources of all three chemicals. He was charged with selling colorado river toads even though they are common in reptile stores around the US.
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Oh alright, my mistake, thought it was a precursor. But why would he be charged with unlawful manufacturing of all those substances if he didn't actually extract them?
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02-10-2010, 07:23 PM
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#39
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wow he was a good guy. always took care of me. i hope he beats it
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02-10-2010, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by greendancinbear
wow he was a good guy. always took care of me. i hope he beats it
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Yeah, really is a shame that people like this are the ones getting hit heavy.
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